Joule Thief

[jeanna]

I am working on making one with 22x4 turn coil to connect in parallel
instead of 48 turns , to reduce the volt and get the amps up charging faster the caps also easier to work with and better to feed back to the cap or the battery.

@MK1,

I wonder if that increase in amps is the  reason my jt seemed to weaken when I added the second secondary?? more amps... more grunt work for the system. lower frequency etc??

hmm.

jeanna

[Mk1]

@all

You have to believe me when saying about high voltage thief , do this 2 jt coil at 180 coil 7 turn each try not to go over 3 wire large and 2 layer  , On the side left blank wind starting on one side close to coil 13 turn to the next coil then go over those 13 turn back down making 26 turn coil , make one one the other side. This will give you , 60 volts on those 24 turn coil, so when rectified you get 120volt dc , this is not a joke, please replicate. No led between the collector and emitter.

@timmy

Each coil coil is acting as a battery if you ad then in series you get more voltage , or in parallel to get more amps.


@Jeanna

I really get a feeling something is wrong in your windings , because if there not located in the same spot , the in and out are not the same ,
Please reverse the coil wire. Or all the led on that side remember the led on the wrong side worked anyway.
Edit : pickup coils are like battery , they have a + and - , so you need to check that.

Mark

[mdmiller]

I had one of those "...hmmmm, I wonder..."  moments and seek advice.

Drawing on Leedskalnin's writings, he demonstrates the generation of electricity, almost always using a horseshoe magnet and passing coils thru the neutral point while lighting bulbs.  Now, moving the coil thru the neutral point should require no energy to counteract magnetic force.  This is in comparison to that required to compensate for the magnetic resistance that might be found in a typical electrical generator.  As I sit here with some magnets I've formed into a 'C' shape and passing iron wires thru this neutral area, there is no magnetic pull there, it is definitely neutral.

He further mentions fastening this apparatus to a wheel - he had found -  was the most efficient method of generating electricity and he had applied for a patent (yet none can be found).  Further, you should not even bother trying it because of his patent.  Call me crazy but that seems to be a flag waving.

I can envision johnnydarvo's pulse motor with horseshoe magnets mounted on the perimeter of the rotor with the 'C' facing out - possibly on an interconnected wheel to stay out of the way of the pulse magnets.  Then stationary coils with ferrite cores positioned around the perimeter and positioned centered on the rotating horseshoe magnets neutral point.  It seems this "generator" would require no torque to power (except overcoming friction) and could be run with a pulse motor.

Sincerely appreciate any thoughts (...including -- gee that's a dumb idea, or that's not the way it works, or it's already being done, or an occasional sanity check is a good thing)  - many thanks - Duane

[Mk1]

@mdmiller

That's the ford model t secret, the first manufactured car was a hybrid you could get 45 horse power power no fuel , if special magnets where placed in the right position , the first 20 000 model t where like that .


And look at the bedini gate.

[jeanna]

@Jeanna

I really get a feeling something is wrong in your windings , because if there not located in the same spot , the in and out are not the same ,
Please reverse the coil wire. Or all the led on that side remember the led on the wrong side worked anyway.
Edit : pickup coils are like battery , they have a + and - , so you need to check that.

Mark

Mark,

Please understand. When I got the strange behavior of one set turning on at a time, I removed all the wire, and re wound the whole thing to 20 turns.

I probably was winding the wrong way around on the second winding, but I wasn't testing for that so I removed it all.

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I don't understand what same spot you mean. (there are so many possibilities to what you are saying)
Does your experience tell you that the second pickup coil should continue in the same direction as the first/

I think Jim's way of pulling out a tap would assure that they are continuing and that the placement is continuing along. (I think that is what you meant by same spot...)


@xee2,

I can not see anything at all with 150K resistor.

However,

I used 1.5k resistor and I see what I call a dim light. It can be seen from all angles and in a dark room with a diffuser would be a night light.

My dual battery pack reads 2.45V and the resistor reads 1.45k.
Ohms law tells me that is  1.68mA.  Not much, and as leds draw less as there is less to draw from, this will last a good long time.

Thanks for the suggestion.

jeanna