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Joule Thief

Started by Pirate88179, November 20, 2008, 03:07:58 AM

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nievesoliveras

Quote from: Pirate88179 on January 18, 2009, 02:31:56 AM
@ Jesus:

As if I wasn't confused enough already.... ha ha.  That is a good post to have them all in one place.  Thank you.

Hey, I don't know where you are located, but pm me if it would be possible for me to send you a Fuji AA board.  I can get some for free so it is no big deal.  Just let me know.

Bill

I will PM you the same @gadgetmall with the addreses needed. I am waiting for a reply from @gadgemall on Feddback To The Source thread. (it is a comment about his circuit transistor polarity)

I saw your last video. It was cool that "Pirate Lab" addition that your software allowed you to include. The nightlite looks good. There is a posted picture way back on the thread. For the new people.

Jesus

Artic_Knight

@ Bill,
Your friend sadly is living in the past. he is right however a 1F cap is huge comepared to old standards. 1 Farad is 1 Amp however and as you can see 1 AMP isnt all that much! now consider that 750 milliamps is 0.75 Farad and you have an idea how your caps stand up to a AAA battery! 2700MAH is a AA which measures 2.7 Farad. im sorry but with the invention of Dual Layer Caps also known as super caps or Ultra caps we can now surpass the density of a lithium ion battery! consider this next time you contemplate a electric car! also contemplate that capactiors can be charged in 20 seconds if the wiring and charge controller can handle it!

@ gadgetmall
before i start i would like to say that i am not trying to start an arguement, please run tests to validate any claims you hear including mine! 
lets say you have a 12 volt battery and your sending 20 volt spikes at a MAH level, which normally spikes are not that big in our projects so MAH is average. you are not giving it much to work with but your giving it a lot of voltage this increases the voltage of the battery but does not give it the lasting amps it needs to sustain a reaction. try this to test your results, take that battery attatch it to a DC/AC converter (start with a new battery) and see how long it runs on a specified load, then cycle this battery a few times with your bedini and see how long it runs! it will raise the voltage making it appear to be charged but there is no lasting power behind it. ive tried and it didnt work. theres no amps to back it.

sparks

    Another good way to store up energy is a resonant circuit.  Imagine going and charging up your car with say 400 amps flowing back and forth between a capacitor and an inductor.   The capacitor wouldn't have to be that big either if the voltage of the system is up around say 10kv.

     Probably the best inductor to use would be the motor driving the wheels. ???
The best capacitor would be a Tesla bifilar wound pancake coil.  Insulation may be an issue but still it seems to be the best way to make a big hv capacitor.  Very high Q if you consider the total mass of the copper instead of just the surface is "charged".

   
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gadgetmall

@Artic_Knight
           Hi . I would never start an argument with anyone . I know some people who build a Bedini and never get it tuned right and there for they get "fuzzy"static high voltage ,No true h waveform and therefor a false charge . If you build one and tune it right you do get current to push your high voltage . I'll Leave it to John Bedini to explain that as he has the Patent on this enerigizer and sell them for $1000.00's of dollars so i doubt they produce fuzzy static like you are claiming :)Mine produce over 200 volts at minimum 100Ma the one in the video produces without a neon in the secondary charger burst up to 400 volts at 10+amps . I burnt one of my Analog meters up trying to measure the output current without a battery or neon just the cap .thats why i keep neons all over my circuit to keep the voltage down and as you saw in the video with just a straight secondary output  thru a cap i light up a 130volt 2.6watt incandescent bulb  to near full brightness even with a neon in parallel with it . go figure /?/. I think there is more people in here that will tell you that indeed there Bedini truly Charged their Battery's up Better than Hard current wasting chargers.I  reuse all my Disposable battery's including the 9 volts In everything even My dvms and smoke alarms and i don't notice any difference in length of charge vers new batterys
@nievesoliver

I never got a pm from you about the Germaniums i pmed you about ??

@All
i am here to listen learn and tell My trials errors and experiments . I find that the Joule Thief is much like the Bedini and is also a different animal . I don't want anyone to be mad at me or i don't want to say something that contradicts someone else's Views unless i can back it up with a real device , not an equation or theory Because the Science of What we are doing hasn't really been done yet like we are doing it   .And as for Johns Sg Energizer i challenge anyone to tell him his sg circuit don't charge battery's better than a high current charger .?.He's over on the energeticforum.
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Artic_Knight

@gadgetmall

ok, if this is the case then im assuming you can adjust the output through a transformer and create a self running curcuit with a cap right?

in my opinion the only way to prove overunity or self running is to power via a cap