Joule Thief

[Mk1]

Now can any of you tell me what that is, i see ferrite , i see pickup coils , 3 galvanic battery on coils, no transistor? Right nature gives us ac anyway, you don't need more.

Its just a step, but the first.  Now that has to be the oldest one anyway.

[electricme]

@MK1
My friend, you have found-stumbled onto a Stubblefield coil setup.
We will digress a little from the JT thread to explain your find.

These things are bifilar wound
Take a iron bolt, tape it with cotton.
Take a iron wire, insulate it with cotton, and a copper wire, both with the same cross sectional area, then wind them on the iron bolt or former.
Nathan Stubblefield made his with the iron wire being insulated with cotton, or silk can be used. without mentioning names  this person will know ha ha


We have 2 threads on the OU forum on just this 1 item.
Localjoes and Pirates (surprise surprise)

IST made a chance remark a little while back I am thinking about, regarding winding cells.
It was mentioned, wind in the normal manner, then when you get to the end of the length of "bolt", stop, make a abrupt 90 degree turn, pull the wires back to the start of the 1st coil layer, place thin insulation over the wire returning back over ontop of the other coils, so there are no shorts,  then continue to wind the bifilar wires, when you get to the end, do the same all over again, and again, and again.

Jeanna and Bill, can either of you both remember if NS mentioned in his patient the above method of winding his coils, I certainly carnt, but he just may have deliberately not mentioned it, and this just mabe the key we have been looking for. A close up look at one of his patient drawings shows an extreamly neat wires. hmmm some more.

I think this is what is going on, and it should not be happenning
When you wind a coil in bifilar, you get to the end, if you go back accross the previous turns, the wires form a X, when the cell tryes to work, it nulls out the energy as the magnetic fields cancell Nths and Sths out. This gives zero output.
I remember someone mentioned their cell got warm ot hot, this magnetit energy cancellation would form heat as it happens.

The same thing occurs winding torids, if you wind over your existing coil, it nulls or cancells out the production of energy, as I have had this pointed out to myself, by others. One of my torids got extreamly hot, it hasnt happened again as I changed its connections.

Theory is the NS cell (called a battery in the patient) is supposed to continuously have output, but it has been evading those who have been replicating it, not their fault mind you as this is a real tricky one to get going.
Their seems to be no existing actual stubblefield coils (batteries) that one can rat (take apart) to see how Nathan Stubblefield made his cells, so this makes it difficult to replicate.

You might have noticed Bill and Jeanna making reference to Stubblefield in their posts, take it from me, they are the "ones" who know just about all there is to know on this topic.

This was a good find MK1, you have jogged my memory deeply, and some things (puzzle bits) are beginning to fall into place, hmmmm very interresting this is.

Thanks MK1

jim

[nievesoliveras]

@all

Cogratulations to all that have made a successful replication of @gadgetmall Bedini Circuit Self Charger!!!
I have not.

But in the meantime I do. What about a composition of the making of a toroid coil?
Keep the good work!

Jesus

[innovation_station]

well everyone nice work ....


im back to work ....  on this coil ....  darn INVESTORS    i have not met any so CHEEP!!

may go looking for others that dont care bout there change.....   

200 bucks at a time dont do SH!T

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IST!

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[nievesoliveras]

@jeanna

Is it this what you meant with your explanation?
Feel free to do any changes to the graphic.

Jesus