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Joule Thief

Started by Pirate88179, November 20, 2008, 03:07:58 AM

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electricme

@Bill
You are correct when you say, free light, power etc etc when you have taken the energy from the earth. What ever method you use, design or buy dosent come into it as far as I am concerned.

This is the same if I give you a fully charged up battery, and say go for it, use as much as you want.
I know I have to make or buy something to produce the energy, but once the means has been developed to to this (JT) then the energy can be replentished, but then again, energy cannot be destroyed, it just takes a different form, so it exists. ;D

All we do is just tap into the energy source.

jim

People who succeed with the impossible are mocked by those who say it cannot be done.

electricme

@Xee2
I let out an Arrrrr when I saw the circuit you drew up as "gadgetmall circuit.jpg"

Quote from: xee2 on May 17, 2009, 02:26:30 PM
I think this is correct.

If you could change the uH coil which is on  the Tr1 Base leg, to a "tuned" slug coil that would be good.

This is the way I see its operation.
The signal, hz etc, enters the tank circuit consisting of the fixed capacitor value, which can be adjusted by the fixed, semi value of the resistor. From this point onwards, usually up to this point in time, no-one else has applied a uH/H (henry) choke into this part of the circuit.
(The Jule Thief is growing ha ha)

Now, the choke can also be "tuned" for harmonics, so we take the signal from the tank output and fine tune it here, then feed it into the resistors base leg.
The choke coil oscillates by itself, but you can "tune" this by inserting a graphite core, and screwing it further in or out of the coil, squeesing or widening a coil in the front end of a radio IF section does a similar thing.

jim
People who succeed with the impossible are mocked by those who say it cannot be done.

Artic_Knight

hey bill have you seen teslas radiant oscilator work? after seeing your earth battery joule thief it dawned on me, you are recreating teslas radiant oscilator.

"The earth has a charge of 96,500 coulombs. With a potential of 360,000 volts, the earth constitutes a capacitor of .25 farads (farads = coulombs/volts). If the formula for calculating the energy stored in a capacitor (E =1/2CV2) is applied to the earth, it turns out that the ambient medium contains 1.6 x 1011 joules or 4.5 megawatt-hours of electrical energy. In order to utilize this high-voltage energy you must do two things â€" make an energy sink and then devise a way of making the “sink” oscillate."

now the planet is a 4.5 megawatt capacitor its collecting energy from somewhere or everywhere and releasing it in the form of lightning, (told you bill i wanted to harness lightning!) a cap simply stores that charge so that means we have a burst of 4.5 mwh but what is our continuous?

the difference between the earth battery and the "radiant oscilator" is that the oscilator uses an arial antenna and a ground. we are using 2 grounds.

the good news is we have our oscilator curcuit all we need is a .3v ? difference to get it to work. or has someone been able to go lower?

gadgetmall

Quote from: electricme on May 18, 2009, 06:43:32 AM
@Xee2
I let out an Arrrrr when I saw the circuit you drew up as "gadgetmall circuit.jpg"

If you could change the uH coil which is on  the Tr1 Base leg, to a "tuned" slug coil that would be good.

This is the way I see its operation.
The signal, hz etc, enters the tank circuit consisting of the fixed capacitor value, which can be adjusted by the fixed, semi value of the resistor. From this point onwards, usually up to this point in time, no-one else has applied a uH/H (henry) choke into this part of the circuit.
(The Jule Thief is growing ha ha)

Now, the choke can also be "tuned" for harmonics, so we take the signal from the tank output and fine tune it here, then feed it into the resistors base leg.
The choke coil oscillates by itself, but you can "tune" this by inserting a graphite core, and screwing it further in or out of the coil, squeesing or widening a coil in the front end of a radio IF section does a similar thing.

jim
Hi Jim / it is a tunable Choke there 4 sure . It has a ferrite .graphite rod in it that slides tight and i have it close . I'll play with more on the next one im building . I tried the mk1 . I just don't have toroid s that like 3  and 4 turns.
@Xee . ya a Slash and and a few bars on that coil symbol please .


@MK! I'll pay you for one !! Please

We need to Discover your 800 volts without a darlington . Wish you had a Number on that toroid but i'll take a blank if you can spare it or the source .

Gadget
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Quote from: electricme on May 18, 2009, 06:01:25 AM
If I go to the shop and buy a light fitting, say for example a 100Watt light bulb, it will consume "more" wattage/current to produce the 100 watts of light, so it can give the stated output?

BUT,,,,will the same   100 watt light bulb take more current to run,  :D
if it is a bulb rated at 240v at 50Hz or
                             120v at 60Hz?

Remember, as the voltage is lowered, the current go's up to compensate for the lower voltage.
what will actually happen current wise depend on the type of light emitting device.

bulb are a resistive type device.
that mean if you lower the voltage, the current will also get lower.
if the resistance was made specially for 240 volts, 100 watts, and you feed it 120 volts, it will use only 50 watts.
if you use a 125volts reated bulb and feed it 240 volts, the filament will blow because you are doubling the current when rising the volts at that level.

note : it is not "100 watts of light".
the light quantity is dependant of the current passing through it, yes.
but that watt rating is not the quantity of the emitted light.

with cfl it is not the same thing.
cfls are not resistive type devices.
they will allow current through them as high as you can provide to them, up until they blow.
4 feets cfl ballast are a "resistive" type of transformer in order to limit the current going to the cfls.