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gadgetmall

Quote from: resonanceman on May 26, 2009, 01:41:44 PM
I think  using  old  mag  wheels  for  earth batterys is a great idea .....
I know that alot of the modern  so called  mag wheels are really aluminum .
Does  anyone know  of  a quick  and  simple  way to tell the  difference  between  magnesium  and  aluminum?


gary
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TheNOP

Quote from: jeanna on May 25, 2009, 10:19:23 PM
Interesting thoughts theNOP. I gather one implication from this is that these parasytic devices CAN operate at very small currents, so let's push this a bit more...
you seem to mix up the 2 things, so  just to clarify.
it is parasitic effects, not parasitic devices.

the current limiting device i spoke of is a simple capacitor.
ex: let say you need to limit the current circulating in a circuit to 100 Watts.
you know you can use a resistor for this, but you would need a 100 Watts resistor to do this.
that also mean lot of loss by heat.
you can use a 100 Watts light bulb as a resistor.
but you can also use a capacitor to do the same thing without the heat loss.

a capacitor can only charge to it rated values so you can use that fact to your advantage.
1 Farad = 1 Ampere.
at 120 volts @ 100 Watts = .83 amps
since 120 volts is AC @ 60Hz, .83 / 120 = a .0069 F capacitor would limit the power circulating in your circuit to 100 Watts.

for pulsed DC it would be .83 / frequency
for AC it is .83 / (frequency * 2)



parasitic effects:
any conducting materials have the capability of generating a mag field and store charges.

a wire will store charges just like a cap, and the current will create a mag field, when current circulate through it.
but in the case of a wire we are talking of something like a few pF and less per inch, for copper circuit board traces.
the capacitance is depend on the distance between the conducting materials and also on the dielectric material inbetween them.
the current is dependent on the capacitance and the frequency as per the example above.

Parasitic_capacitance

TheNOP

Quote from: Mk1 on May 26, 2009, 04:49:14 PM
http://www.nuenergy.org/alt/page_36_from_harnessing_cosmic_energy.htm
interesting.
that is a theory that is as good as any other.

ask any EE or physicists what is inrush current.
you will be suprised by theirs answeres.

the effect is well known but no one know, why and how, it happen for sure.
at least no one has prouve any of the hypotesis about it with replicable experiences.

it is there no matter what, use it or try to minimise it, it is up to you.

altrez

@all

I am still running on the same two battery's from last night! I have one charging while the other one is powering the JT when the lights go out I switch places with the battery. It seems to be working better then expected.

I set up another test rig when I had an idea. Why not use the jt to charge two battery's at the same time. So I tried it and it works! I also tried using one of the charged battery's from the JT to run a CFL from a fuji mod and it worked! So here is what I have done with my setup.

1. Charged a 1.2V battery and it used it to power the JT while I charged the first source battery. This has been running for 24 hours with swapping.

2. Used a charged battery from a JT to run a fuji circuit and power a modified CFL.

3. Ran 10 LEDS the whole time I was testing.

Now what I have noticed is that if the LEDS go out. I can adjust the 10k POT and they will come back on. And my rectified DC voltage will jump back up.

I have also added a second Toroid to my main circuit wrapped around one of the pickup coils leads. That one has its own pickup coil that I am using to power its own 4 volt LED.

So what do you guys think?

-Altrez