Joule Thief

[resonanceman]

I just want to add,

The amount of energy we are using that is unrecovered should only be the amount that is ACTUALLY dissipated by the load. The rest should be able to be returned to the battery.

All the rest.

We are so accustomed to using so much extra and slopping it all over the place that we have no idea how much we waste.

IMO you have just shown a little indication of just how much we spill out of our bucket. (I think that was MK1's metaphor.)

@xee, the voltage in the battery may not be a good indication of what was used, but if after a recharge, the chemistry is ready and able to "do it again" who cares?

jeanna

Jeanna

I agree for the most part .

Can you  define   "  ACTUALLY dissipated by the load "
I can see how  electricity  can  be turned into  heat  or radiowaves ......other than that .......it seems to me that all the energy is still there .

Energy is not what we have been taught  that it is
We need to  learn about it for ourselves .


gary

[altrez]

You seem to be making some serious progress here!  Keep up the good work

Thank you! I am trying
-Altrez

[altrez]

sounds like a knee jerk reaction. you can test the 'empty' voltage and see how 'empty' it is.

Yep. Hes coming over this weekend. I plan to show him.

-Altrez

[altrez]

Altrez

What is empty voltage ?

It  looks to me like your friend is very well educated .
It looks to me like your  friend   learned  all he knows  without questioning it much.
To me  it is clear that the  curriculum  of even our  best  collages  has been  tweaked by people  that  have a vested interest in  keeping people   hooked  on  their  power .
The  "quirks " that we could  use to get OU  are   simply not   discussed in  any detail .....they are not studied .
How to get around these quirks is  taught in great detail

It is  good to trust  your friend ...........but just because he has a good education   does not mean he has the real facts .

Trust what is on your workbench .
If you can power  something  with   a battery you recharge  with  your system  ........who cares if the  voltage is " empty "   

Keep  up  the good work   





gary

Right on! And thank you. It is right here on my work bench and I can take the battery out and power the fuji!

-Altrez

[altrez]

@ altrez
A JT is just an easy to build DC-DC converter that puts out high frequency pulses at high voltage. Battery voltage is not a good indicator of energy stored in battery. You should talk to your friend more.

Yeah he is coming over this weekend we are gonna have a talk. And while we are talking I plan to power a cfl with one of my "empty" battery's

Lol

Altrez