Joule Thief

[xee2]

@ altrez

I understand that by changing the frequency on the coil you make it resonate what I do not understand is how that is OU?

It is not OU. The guy claiming that it is OU just does not understand what he is doing.

[innovation_station]

@ altrez
It is not OU. The guy claiming that it is OU just does not understand what he is doing.

like i said nuttin too special bout resonance alone ...

lol

2 freq a short pulse close to the natural running freq... with a verry quick off time ...

be it mechanical switching transistor fet or whatever it is your rinninggggg  cut pulse ...

resonance works cuz ... the KICK...   

shift coil is a tuned coil 1-1 mass to mass this will develop a larger kick .. catch the first one ....  dump it back in ...

i cant wate to see there proof it dont work ... lol 

discoveryies best eh !! lol

ist!

in some digging round i found a patten of intrest ...

no words ... just a pic ...

[altrez]

@ altrez
It is not OU. The guy claiming that it is OU just does not understand what he is doing.

This might sound silly but what exactly is OU?

-Altrez

[gadgetmall]

@altrez Ou can be as simple as running ayour Jt on 1.2 volts drawing 10 ma and outputting 1.3 volts at 11 ma . that is over your unity or over what you started out with .Someone here can take this simple Ou and caluclate the COP of this  threoretical circuit and give you a number of how much this would be OU .
Gadget

[TheNOP]

im using teslas other version which was wound ababab and when a ended it was connected to the beginning of b.

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also it creates a larger magnetic field ususally which if your thinking what i was thinking no it doesnt create OU in itself.

i once made the mistake to say this, and later prouve to myself it is not.

the field strenght is as big as if it was a single coil of same length, coil a + coil b.
bifilar 10 turns + 10 turns mag field = single coil of 20 turns mag field.

what a bifilar does is lower the self inductance of the coils and enhance the capacitance.

Hi TheNOP
Reference to the vid that Mk1 posted http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQdcwDCBoNY&feature=channel_page,although the numbers maybe off,does not the fact that the bulb on the secondary is lit,and the bulb on the primary is not lit, show ou,if not what am I missing.Assuming no trickery.
peter

there is no trickery in what he show.

first
i don't have a sound card in this computer, so what he claim, i don't know.
what he say don't interfere with what i see in his video and what i know of such experiments.
while my experiences may not be with the exact same coil's turns, frequency and caps, i can say for sure that the same rules/effects/phenomenas still applies.

at least it is not him that play a trick on you.
it is your own mind that is tricking you.
well..., this is what i assume because i know that peoples in general have problems to see a current flow in what appear to be an open circuit.
the same is true for closed circuits, the current flow path might not always be obvious.

what is happening is that at the proper frequency one of the coil = 0 impedence and the current flow way more easily in it then in the other coil.
the caps are the other side of the circuit, not the wire going back to the signal generator.

those caps could also not be there and the parasitic capacitance of the coils whould be enough.
but in that case the resonence frequency would be much higher.