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Joule Thief

Started by Pirate88179, November 20, 2008, 03:07:58 AM

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jeanna

Hi All,
EDIT: I need to delete this part...   ...
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but still...

adding two or three similar sets of pickups on the same toroid could give a multi-phase kind of ac -- if they could be phased.

I have been thinking about this kind of thing a lot lately.

I read that the reason for 3 phase is to give enough power to heavy things (like saws and stoves etc.) to make it impossible for the waveform to ever be zero.

I see the importance of frequency here too. If the frequency of all these peaks can be pushed together, then it will seem like pure uninterrupted power. Power without a null point.

But it seems to need more. I can get a very high frequency of waves that are 260 volts on a MK1 but while that will turn on the string o' leds, it has far more voltage than the wall does, and more than twice the voltage that is required. The amps are there for the lights as well, but they only turn on with this voltage level that is 2 1/2 times what is required from the wall.

So, after I have found a great frequency/volts or the peak of those, then I should be able to make a couple of pickups that will go together and look like more power by phasing them, because there will be no null point.- right?

I am probably saying nothing new for those of you who have studied.

So, I would like to ask you who have studied, how the 2 or 3 (if I can fit them) pickups should be added together?

What kind of thing would retard one of the similar coils on the same toroid?
(Would a ceramic cap in series on one but not the other have a retarding effect?
Is a resistor appropriate here?... ) Maybe they would be in a different phase by virtue of being in a different place on the toroid itself? And I should just try it. (I guess I should just try it anyway)

thank you for your ideas,

jeanna

xee2

@Pirate88179

I would not want to see you get hurt so I think you need to do some research before you use a 650 F capacitor. If charged to 2 volts it can deliver a million amps for a millisecond if it has low internal resistance. If you do not think a million amps can do much damage in a millisecond I think you will soon be educated.


electricme

Quote from: electricme on June 02, 2009, 05:00:58 AM
@all,
I just found a web site that just blew me away literally. ;D
The information on LEDs is awsome here, just what you can do with LEDs.

This chap has found a 100Watt LED module, which is actually an array of Star Luxon Leds, it needs a massive heatsink with a fan blower to get rid of the heat, now I wonder if our joulethief could make it run cooler? lol. It costs $500 australian

The output is to be seen to be believed, it can burn holes in stuff, it is brighter than a set of car 100watt headlights, this is the way of economy lightning. :D
 
Click on this to go to it   http://tesladownunder.com/LEDs.htm

Then scroll to the bottom to see what a 2N3055 gets up to in the dark, ha ha ha, amazing stuff this

jim

You lot missed all this lol
http://tesladownunder.com/LEDs.htm
People who succeed with the impossible are mocked by those who say it cannot be done.

electricme

@Bill,

Quote from: Pirate88179 on June 02, 2009, 02:38:22 PM
I am going to have to ramp it down a bit with a transformer.

Thanks for the other warnings.  I already figured that I do not want to touch 650 amps, ha ha.  You are right, this is not a toy at all and folks do need to use caution when experimenting with these.

Come to think of it, I probably should hang a sign on my cap container saying "Danger" just in case the maintenance guy decides to touch the leads on the EB supercap set-up.  It might get me evicted.

Bill
Hi Bill, congradulations  on aquiring your big cap, If you put the cap in your flat with a couple of charging wires back to the EB, put the blocking diode on the cap terminal itself, this will ensure it's safety from the maintenance man's point of view back in the paddock.  :D A sign is still a good idea though.

You wont be able to ramp it down with a transformer, as DC needs something behind it to give it a move-along like a make and break switch type of thing, but I understand what you mean.



@Altrez,
I got your PM ok. Ta.
People who succeed with the impossible are mocked by those who say it cannot be done.

Pirate88179

@ All:

My Earth battery-supercap running a one magnet no bearing Bedini motor:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rauOlhNK0iY

That cap is great!!

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen