Joule Thief

[stprue]

No set voltage no set amp and only the negative input and ground are making this led light.

[stprue]

When the power supply is off it will not work so the important question is what in the power supply is leaching out into thin circuit?  Is it maybe a transformer like in the video???  If so maybe this is the right set!!!

[electricme]

Hello maw2432,

Jim, 

Why do you think the INSULATION IS THE KEY?   Did you do a control experiment? 
I just purchased some copper pipe and zinc screws to replicate your findings. 

Bill

To answer your question, Yes and No, because I have done 2 unusual things.

First, the successful series cells I posted yesterday is not mt my first successful attempt, but rather it is the second one.

About a week ago I got 2 aluminium pipes about 7 inches long and 1 inch wide and drove them in the ground. I measured for the voltage across them and it was about .6 as I recall as I did not write it dowm.

I removed the pipes, then wrapped insulation tape in the method I showed.
I then put them back in the ground, being careful not to damage the tape.
I did not measure between the pipes at this stage.

Next I got 2 seperate 1/2 inch copper pipes
I put dirt into the aluminium pipes
I the 2 seperate copper pipes inside each of the aluminium pipes.

I then measured each cell, they were very close to .75 volts DC

I then connected them in series and got 1.4volts

Now, this I had never been able to accumplish before.

BUT, in a Aluminium outer cell setup with a Copper inner electrode, the voltage is  this,,,, Aluminium is the Negative   and Copper is the POSITIVE

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If you take a Copper Pipe and a ZINC nail to make a cell, the
POSITAVE is the COPPER pipe and the Negative is the ZINC electrode.

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The POS and NEG switch around, being on the inner or the outer electrode depending on which material you select as your EER setup.

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Now, one thing I did not realise until late last night, I had not lined my 2 EER setups up to North or South.

They are East to West alignment, now, this was a mistake on my part, but, BOTH different EER setups STILL WORK, my next setup I will put in a North to South configuration, then I willl see what occurs.
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So to answer your question, Yes, the insulation is the key to making a series EER setup.

I will get the web address and post it here in a few minutes for those who come accross this site can duck over the the EE Battery site.

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Here's the link  http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7769.260

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Thanks Bill M


jim

[electricme]

@ Cap-Z-ro

Thank you Cap-i-tan,  your are right, down hill all the way now, I can see this will open up big replications, if one wants 24v or 48v then all they need to do is add cells to the end.

You are only limited in voltage and Amps, by the size of the EER system.
 

Huge kudo's to Jim...that set up is a great example of lateral out of the box thinking.

Its all down hill skying from here gang...the barrier is now down.

And the rest of the j/t crew are to be commended for providing a fertile atmosphere here.

I may try a short cut modification of jim's concept this wknd, if time allows.

I'm proud to even be associated with you people.

Regards...

PS I recommend you all start first with a small setup of everyday easy to get materials to understand the consept.
So if you need to modify it, you will know what to do with it.

jim

[stprue]

My power supply is bleading...it's AC voltage making the light turn on!!!  When I  move the - input to the JT to the output side it still works...ohhh well I think there is more to this anyway. 



good night all