Why does mass slow time?

[erickdt]

I look at it as...
Space is a medium. I don't know what it's made of other than to say it's elastic. (aka ether)

Energy is a result of lossless waves that undulate that space. (aka zero point energy, vacuum energy, dark energy)

Matter is an effect resulting from the way those waves interact under certain conditions. And so are gravity and inertia.

Time is simply a way of saying that one thing happens after another. The measurement of the rate at which one thing happens after another, i.e. the measurement of time, is a human activity.
-Steve
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Space is not a medium. Space is the distance between objects. The mere fact that it is called space implies that it is void of objects AKA matter.

Energy is not the "result" of anything. Energy (and matter) have existed forever and ever and ever. We know this because neither matter nor energy can be created or destroyed. That is scientific, proven, fact. See: the laws of thermo-dynamics & the law of the conservation of matter.

Time is a term that has many meanings. Time in the context of a discussion of space/time and physics is constant and therefore a good benchmark to measure by.

[Steven Dufresne]

Space is not a medium. Space is the distance between objects. The mere fact that it is called space implies that it is void of objects AKA matter.

Energy is not the "result" of anything. Energy (and matter) have existed forever and ever and ever. We know this because neither matter nor energy can be created or destroyed. That is scientific, proven, fact. See: the laws of thermo-dynamics & the law of the conservation of matter.

Time is a term that has many meanings. Time in the context of a discussion of space/time and physics is constant and therefore a good benchmark to measure by.

Actually, after more thought I'm back to agreeing with you re time, though gravityblock has provided for some nifty thinking.

However, even in the world of physics, space has multiple definitions (just as in the standard model, the vacuum is filled with energy, not what you'd expect of a vacuum.) In the wave structure of matter model, space is a medium.

As for energy, the "result" of something can still have quantity which can be something which can neither be created nor destroyed. Not everyone here agrees with the law of conservation of energy and matter, but I'm with you on that one too [EDIT: though I wouldn't rule out the possibility of it being repealed some day should we ever learn to engineer space].
-Steve
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[hansvonlieven]

Quote: Space is not a medium. Space is the distance between objects. The mere fact that it is called space implies that it is void of objects AKA matter.

Incorrect. Only because an object occupies space that does not mean that the space disappears. It is still there. Space is simply a frame of reference.

Quote: Energy is not the "result" of anything. Energy (and matter) have existed forever and ever and ever. We know this because neither matter nor energy can be created or destroyed. That is scientific, proven, fact. See: the laws of thermo-dynamics & the law of the conservation of matter.

Also incorrect. It is a scientific THEORY that has so far not been disproven.

Hans von Lieven

[erickdt]

Quote: Space is not a medium. Space is the distance between objects. The mere fact that it is called space implies that it is void of objects AKA matter.

Incorrect. Only because an object occupies space that does not mean that the space disappears. It is still there. Space is simply a frame of reference.

Quote: Energy is not the "result" of anything. Energy (and matter) have existed forever and ever and ever. We know this because neither matter nor energy can be created or destroyed. That is scientific, proven, fact. See: the laws of thermo-dynamics & the law of the conservation of matter.

Also incorrect. It is a scientific THEORY that has so far not been disproven.

Hans von Lieven

I can agree with you on the points regarding space.

With regards to conservations of energy and matter: Are you for real? They're scientific laws that have NEVER even come close to being proven incorrect. You're arguments attempts to illicit proof of a negative, which is impossible...

[hansvonlieven]

I can agree with you on the points regarding space.

With regards to conservations of energy and matter: Are you for real? They're scientific laws that have NEVER even come close to being proven incorrect. You're arguments attempts to illicit proof of a negative, which is impossible...

Sorry Eric,

You say that I am trying to elicit proof of a negative, this is not so. It could well be within the realm of possibility that someone one day creates energy or matter. Even science accepts this. But until then we have a theory that appears to work, at least as far as we can tell.

Hans von Lieven