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locating Steve Mark´s TPU demonstration house

Started by EMdevices, November 22, 2008, 09:00:43 PM

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BEP

Quote from: Thaelin on November 29, 2008, 06:18:41 PM
   Ok, the cats out of the bag so I can comment on this. Em showed the tank coil setup.
I have been playing around with this for a while now and see everything SM talked about
right there in front of all of us. The small torrids are the oscilators and the tanks are the
coils wound around the form.
   I just finished a coil/cap pair that when "ramped up" went from 120ma down to 14ua at
12v. The tank had a 375ma oscilation in it. That makes a Q of ???     :o


   This makes me feel the TPU is right out of the Radio Manual of yester year. I just have
to set up a spread sheet complete with formula to calculate the final outputs for many
different coil/cap setups to achieve the desired output range. Using lamp cord and high
value caps will be right in the ballpark figures as well.

thaelin

Keep rocking EM, time is near.


@Thaelin

I'm glad to see anti-resonance being considered. Whith the circulating tank current it would be great to couple to such without the expected losses.

While you consider this method please also consider 90 degree coupling. Yes, this will be the signal for the PC heroes to jump in but blow them off.

I've not found proper math for such coupling as it is not considered possible to transfer energy. This is incorrect.

There is coupling but extremely short pulses. I also find them generating 'induced' current of one polarity. It would take many wires to generate useful energy. If you try it try winding two conductor cable around a single conductor. Connect the bifilar coil as series opposing and watch the output of the 'core' conductor.

I am very interested in your findings and any math you find that works.

Thanks,

BEP

Peterae

@Thaelin

Sometimes you have to follow your gut feeling with these things, dont forget if modern theory had the answers we wouldnt need to plug into the grid.

Here's some information about winding better coils for Q

http://www.qsl.net/k5bcq/COIL/COIL.html

Good luck with your experiments.

Peter

wattsup

@EM

I have been doing some tests with my current FTPU build using regular lamp wire loop and a 16 awg insulated wire for the coils. There is a coupling that can occur between the rings and the coils but is it very very weak. I then took another closer look at the FTPU video and I think the loop wire may be lamp wire but not the lamp cord wire that is used to be plugged in the wall but lamp cord wire that is used inside the lamp itself. That wire has a harder exterior but it is much thinner insulation then the regular lamp wire that is much more thicker and thus I think this is holding back a better coupling effect. Also for the loop, I see the way it curves around with jagged angles I would not be surprised if the loop was a 200-400 strand litz wire about 1/8" diameter.

Also, the rings coil wire is very very thin. The idea of these wire choices is to minimize the plastic insulation so the wires are coupled as close together as possible.

Hopefully in a few days I'll make a wiring diagram of how the wires are really connected to the digital meter and work out some more of the wiring.

But here is another observation.

There are two center toroid halves, there are two outer coils, there are two outer rings. The question is coupling. The toroid halves is not coupled but to themselves via the toroid core. The rings and outer coils are coupled. The thin outer coil wire tells me this is the primary since there is not enough turns to act as a suitable secondary.

So let's look at the toroid. When a toroid coil is energized, the flux in the core increases. When the coil is opened, the flux returns to the coils. Lately I did some tests using Tesla ozone patent as a hook-up guide and this gave me the best coupling with the present build. I think that with better less insulated wires on the rings and coils, this coupling will increase dramatically. There should be a way to use the ozone patent in the FTPU. Just has to be determined the coil of high induction, the primary, the secondary and the point of short circuit from the feed supply. Don't forget that the Ozone patent works in one direction, then in the other direction so this can be used one one coil, then the other. A transistor could switch between them. One on/off creates two movements.

Gobaga

here is some data from a brochure from an electric utility:

magnetic field from electric distribution lines:

1 to 80 milligauss under the line

magnetic field from transmission lines (the very large ones like those near the house in question):

1 to 300 milligauss at the edge of the right of way

(Maximum values are set by State or other regulations)

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These seem a little too weak to support the hypothesis that the TPU gets energy from power lines.

slapper

I have uploaded two documents that go into some detail about the center toroid coils.

Magnetic Amplifiers U.S. Navy 1951:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item204
You will need DjVu Viewer to open the document inside the zip file.

Magnetic Amplifiers Principles and Applications1960:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item205

The document that Thaelin has been referring to is a very good reference.
The Radio Handbook - Fifteenth Addition


Thank you Thaelin for bringing it to our attention.

Take care.

nap

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