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Cavitation. The key to overunity?

Started by Pirate88179, November 29, 2008, 10:50:09 AM

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Grumpy

Quote from: TheBuzz on December 25, 2008, 01:28:56 PM
@ loner - The first line - "Let us consider ring-shaped core transformers - … it is easier to draw them."

I built something along this line recently and the transformer seemed to resonate at 21MHZ - the ferro nuclear resonant frequency of iron. I don't have a frequency counter that goes that high but based on my old scope appeared to be right in that range and was similar to Meyer's burst waves that he was showing at the end of his notes.

The part that is most interesting is that the inductors do not collapse at the same time and so I could imagine a cavitation taking place similar to what Thane Heins has going.

It is just a tutorial and an interesting one at that. Also get to know a little more about Marinov. He figured out the Hubbard trick and his work shows how to start the coil with a glancing arc against the inductor. Read the Seattle intelligencer  article of the boat account and how Hubbard arced / struck a wire against a metal plate for five minutes until he got it working.



but easier to understand than Thane  ;)

Was that with Marinov's ball bearing motor or the other one?
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sparks

       If we go with a tuned torroidal core and get it ringing and then inductively link to it with a second tuned torroidal but this one has some resistance built into the circuit would we damp the waves in the first torroid?
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BEP

Quote from: Grumpy on December 25, 2008, 02:43:43 AM
Exploding wire experiments:

Compression is always several orders of magnitude larger (i.e. has more energy) than decompression.

Exploding a wire with the negative terminal will not produce near the results of using the positive terminal - both with capacitor discharge as energy source.

I can quote some references if you want them.

@Grumpy

Thanks but not at this time. I'm up to my ears in trying to package a fish dinner  ;)

This cavitation idea fits nicely with my EMP toy. If that isn't cavitation then nothing else is. The problem I have is it always put out less than it used. Granted, the output could be pretty darned impressive or destructive (depended upon who I was torqued at that day) but I use two or three 800 amp hour batteries to fire off a blast. It is safest on the coil side of the wall (as opposed to the battery side) when I bang the IGBTs.

Still, there is no OU. It'll suck 50% of those batteries when fired with a time frame of several thousand mills but the contraction is so fast I can't see it on a 500mHz scope. No doubt it is there. I still have the smoked equipment to prove it and my daughter has a new brainbox for her car, too :-X

With all of that the math still said it was no more efficient than a stun-gun. So I'm looking for a repeatable experiment that shows some OU with cavitation as desert for the fish dinner.


sparks

   It appears that there is an abundance of negative charge hanging around.
Protons are positive charge scources but seem to be insulated by the electron field.   But if we strip the field surrounding the protons of all the "insulation" we get a nice positive pulse.  So we get conventional current down the wire but in it's wake it leaves this very positively charged field that expands quite rapidly due to columb forces.  If the potential is shut down before the protons begin to migrate towards the cathode there is no scource of negative charge to define their inertial gain so they are left on their own and expand quite rapidly creating a cavity full of positive charge.  It won't be long before "something" tries to fill this cavity.  Perhaps electomagnetic waves stimulating the ions back into a more natural noisy insulated system?
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Magnethos

@ PL
QuoteI think the secret to "free energy" is ambient thermal energy. I would consider ZPE as a form of thermal energy

I think that more than thermal is some kind of radiation. Hot/Positive Electricity dissipates heat, Cold/Negative Electricity absorbs heat.

If we analyse this, we can see:
Cold-> Heat absorbtion (endothermic)
Heat-> Heat emission    THIS DEFINITION IS STRANGE, RIGHT?
All is around heat... but... What is really "Heat" or Thermal Energy?

I think Heat is some kind of Radiation or Polarization or something else.

One thing is known...
When something is heat up or it emits heat... the molecules are moving faster and faster.
When something is cold down or cooled, the molecules are stopping until the Absolute Zero 0 degrees Kelvin.

So... Thermal energy is something related with the molecules movement, right?

An interesting question can be... What really happens when we freeze water? Since cold means heat absorbtion... When we freeze water... water is absorbing heat???
I have also read that Cooling = energy loosing.

UPDATE #1
I also remember that boiling isn't related with temperature. Boiling point is related with Pressure. There are some videos where you can see cold water boiling, of course, decreasing the pressure.

So, freezing = attraction of the molecules = heat absorbtion

All this is in relation with Hot/Positive and Cold/Negative Electricity.

I have also remember that Tachyonic energy (I think Tachyons are the universal particles) is related with the matter order. You can get Tachyonic energy, if you have an high order matter. I mean, Cold/Negative Energy seems to be the key to get free energy. Cold Means an ordered state of the matter like in the frozen water (all molecules have an order). Hot/Positive energy is like a molecular disorder and means energy dissipation. Tachyonic energy is related with that process. Maybe when order is present in the matter Tachyonic energy can be polarized and turns tachyonic to EM energy. Maybe the formation of ElectroMagnetic energy is a form of Tachyonic polarization or something similar.