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      Resonance you are demonstrating is analogous to an echo.  It is of course the most bang for the buck.  Every time the voltage is reflected (pressure wave)  it does work (ear drum vibration).  The voltage wave from the line or battery is caused to be captured and reflected in these systems.  If one were to place a wattmeter on the input to this circuit this would be demonstrated.  If the wave travels on another wave then the circuit runs with true gain.  The systems do clearly show that currentless transfer of voltage is the way to go.  Desaturating a transformer core in phase with the voltage wave is a convenient way for power companies to get by using an active voltage regulator.  The transformer primary under no load conditions impedance is matched to the input voltage wave.  When the secondary induced voltage results in a current that changes the impedance of the transformer core in phase with the primary voltage the line current increases.  This is a gross waste of energy.  By addition of capacitors that use the secondary as an inductor in a resonant circuit you can slow that meter down considerably.

[najman100]

@najman100,

It is almost impossible to design an inverter that does not have any losses.
At best you get 80 - 90 % of the energy you put into the inverter back as
a usable output. The over unity in the circuit must be higher than  2 x the total
input usage to be able to loop back the output to the input. It is probably
simpler to design the coils to give you the voltage you need by designing
the secondary coils with enough turns, but when we starts to talk about
several Watts output then your idea will be a nice way to loop back energy.

@gotoluc,

I did the math on your 12VDC test.

Circuit input usage without any load = 0,60221 Watt.
Circuit input usage with coils connected = 1,54854 Watt.
Output on coil 1 with 10 ohm load resistor = 0,29584 Watt
Output on coil 2 with 5 ohm load resistor = 0,24642 Watt
Output total = 0,54226 Watt.

Circuit input usage - circuit switching loss = 1,54854 Watt - 0,60221 Watt = 0,94633 Watt.
So at 12VDC input voltage the circuit COP = 0,573. So at this low voltage the circuit runs at a little
over 50% efficiency. So I agree with you, high voltage switching in resonance is a must.

@TinselKoala,

Great video. You confirmed that the input usage did not go up when connecting the coil as a load.
Keep up the good work.

Groundloop.

Thx Groudloop for the feed back
i am playing with a bigger setup ,i need to power a MOT in resonance i am working on producing hho so now you gave me an idea for the inverter first i will try to find the resonance of that inverter than i will power the MOT and find its resonance .still waiting foe my part in the mail 

[gotoluc]

Hello all,

maybe a core?

Otto

Hello Otto,

thanks for dropping in ... I went to bed this morning around 2:30am and could not sleep and eventually did around 8am. Anyways, just to say when I woke up one of my first toughs was... this is most likely the same principal as the SM TPU.... I wonder If the TPU guys will check the topic and here you are Otto.

I did try my coil with and without pieces of ferrite inserted in the center of the spool and found no real advantages using it. It seemed to increase the output but at a cost of power consumption from the input.

But others should replicate and experiment to find the best combination.

Thanks for looking and asking your question Otto

Luc

[gotoluc]

Gotoluc, Groundloop, TinselKoala very nice and professional work. Don't stop posting, I can just say before me somebody, there are many people who read that topic.

I am not replicated the circuit, but I feel I can help a bit, to make it more interesting, and fun.

I think, if the challenge is a designing a coil system and circuit which which deliver more output then input,  and we plan to loop back the part of the output to input, we need rethink, what controlling system will allow to us that.

I would suggest to eliminate the signal generator first. The coil is, the resonance target, we pulse the coil, to achieve resonance. We can't reach real resonance if our drive pulse frequency can't change harmoniously with the coil resonance level. I suggest to redesign the circuit, to make possible the self triggering. You have to use sensing coils, which would provide the input pulse for input side. These sensing coils have to induce enough voltage to turn on the circuit. They can induce only any voltage if they are in good relationship  with the target coil, and if there are flux change in the target coil. So, I suggest to bond the output power side, and input power side together, and allow the circuit, to start from same cap. If that ready, and our circuit, and coil design is good, if we charge the cap, the circuit will start, and after some ringing stop, because the cap goes empty.

Now the real challenge is the understood the relationship between the coils, and design a coil system, which will destroy itself. There are many interesting thing about coils, and many thing what we think we know, but when we start to investigate we realize, oh my god, we don't.

Thank you Chef for posting your ideas and opinion

I totally agree with you ... ideally we should have some kind of feedback to keep coils tweaked since changes of loads will effect the coils resonant frequency.

I also though of this and I was trying to remember of a circuit I saw (I think on youtube) of someone's design to keep a Stanley Meyer's style coil in resonance as the dielectric properties of water change with heat, or something like that. It looked very simple. If anyone can help find that information please do post it.

Thanks Chef for taking the time to post this information.

Luc

[Cap-Z-ro]

Boy...it looks like you guys are nearly there.

Regards...