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The free energy in CAPACITOR

Started by Tito L. Oracion, December 06, 2008, 06:50:54 AM

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Tito L. Oracion

Nikola Tesla pointed out that capacitor is the source for free energy.
Tom Bearden also saying that capacitor makes free energy.

Now!!!
Can this capacitor really power our house?

Any idea?



Tito L. Oracion.




Koen1

Where did Bearden ever say a cap is free energy?
I've exchanged email with Tom Bearden and what we
discussed was never so laughably simple as just a capacitor,
it always concerned using some trick like in Bedinis
motors to, as Bearden likes to put it "transduce energy from
the vacuum" in the form of a "negative energy spike",
which temporarily attracts electrons in a capacitor...
But there the cap is only used as coupling between the
"negative energy" and the positive energy in the circuit,
and you really need to shock "the vacuum" using
a high potential discharge to get the effect...

patmac

This concept is complex, many peoples thinks when read Bearden trying to power a house with a capacitor or coil, that isn't the point here.

The point here is build a device at least COP 1.0, this menas no consumes energy, because firs, is a device highly efficiente, second, gives energy to store to battery or capacitor and three takes energy fron the enviroment (vacuum) to equilibrate looses, friction gravity etc.

Bearden refers to capacitor because free energy born from the Vaccum (radiant?), if you build a device (ej: Bedini SG) and test with your tester the energy that your devices gives is only a fraction that consumes, but if you put this energy in a capacitor, you can obtain near to COP 1.0 or if you have success you can obtain COP > 1.0. This energy is obtanainble too on Lead Acid Batteries, you device run from source batt and recharge another batt, after you in theory can switch the batts, and this device can works for long time without external source.

Bearden explain us about some devices OVERUNITY COP>1, some of them is the ELETRET, is like capacitor, recharge himself with a permanent magnet between his plates, Bearden refers too about charge a capacitor and load a charge in open loop on the load, this capacitor is not a convencional capacitor electrolitic, is a capacitor with super rigid plates, this plaates no moves when capacitor charge or discharge, The cost of this capacitor is extremely high, about 300 dollars to some thousands dollars, this capacitor charge when you connect on the battery and battery no drawing current.

Free energy is possible, but for power a house I recommend begin with solar panel and wind generator, because for example a refrigerator, if the compressor motor is like a Adams Motor, or Rotor Verter, can consume about 80 watts, then you can power your house with a generator like Bedini's, but all in  your house use tech that destroys the DIPOLE. For this reason get free energy for the house is hard,

Koen1

Sure, whatever. Can't really say there is much solid info in your post,
seems to be mostly enthousiasm and little realism.
I have exchanged email with Tom Bearden for a while on the subject
of his "asymmetrical regauging" of the "vacuum" (=space-time),
and on the use of capacitors to collect "negative energy" spikes
and transduce them into 'normal' electrical charge output.
I do not recall any setup suggested by Bearden to extract "free energy"
from the "vacuum" purely and solely by using a capacitor.
I do very clearly recall his interpretation of Bedini and others' devices
and his attempts to substantiate his "energy from the vacuum"
4-dimensional "dirac sea holes" asymmetrical regauging theory
as explanations for apparent OU in those devices.

Oddly enough, Bedini had a fairly nice underlying theory that did not
involve 4-dimensional "dirac sea hole"/"negative energy" pulses per se,
but in the older versions simply seems to take efficient back EMF
collection and shock charging of the main battery as the "OU"
mechanism, pointing out that shocking the batteries that way can
re"condition" the batteries and effectively give more output than
the circuit and battery would normally do.
When Bearden got himself involved with Bedini, he clearly worked
on applying his vacuum asymmetry theory on Bedinis setup.
Just like he did with the VacuumTriodeAmplifier.
And he seems to want to see every potential OU setup as an implementation
of his theory.

Which is understandable up to a point, after all, the theory seems quite
good.

But if his theory really does explain everything, then how come the MEG
he worked on with others for years and which they even applied for a patent to,
which was supposed to be based completely on the AB-effect and the
asymmetrical "vacuum" regauging as described extensively by Bearden,
still is not on the market?
Years ago they were claiming they had it working, it was definately OU,
but they were still working on closing the loop.
Yet in the mean time there has been silence, no new developments on the MEG
seem to have occurred, and there are zero versions available, neither closed-loop
nor unlooped. Nothing.
Seems a bit odd...

Anyway, Bearden to my knowledge never said that simply putting a capacitor
in a vacuum will give you output or anything like that.
First of all the term "vacuum" is meant in the sense of "space-time" and "empty space",
and has more to do with the fact that space-time is multidimensional and time must
be taken as one of the dimensions of the continuum, than that it has to do with
a region of 3D space with no matter in it.
Second, the capacitor can be used to transduce "negative energy" from the "vacuum"
(read: the 4D-equivalent of electron "deficiencies" or "holes" in the 4D Dirac sea that is ZPE),
into "positive energy" inside our slice of the space-time continuum (read: 3D electron
concentrations in our 3D space at a point in time, which is a "slice" of the 4D continuum),
according to Beardens theory, but only under specific circumstances. One of these
is what happens in the Bedini "motor"s, which is a very quick burst of very high voltage
through the primary coils. Such a very "sharp spike" of electrical charge, according to B.,
sort of knocks the local region of the space-time continuum off balance, creating an
"asymmetrical" situation, and in reaction to this the multidimensional space-time "kicks"
back a sharp "negative energy" spike, which is seen in the coils as a very brief but high
potential positive charge burst. But since it's not "normal" positive charge in 3D,
but rather 4D that briefly "leaks" into our 3D, this charge disappears or "evaporates"
again. During the brief moment that it has not yet "evaporated", it does act like positive
3D charge and does electrostatically attract 3D electrons in the capacitor.
Or so goes Beardens theory.

So you'd need an efficient circuit in which very high voltage pulses can be initiated,
and a method to capture the back emf from that spike, and then you might be able
to route the alleged negative energy to the capacitor and transduce it into positive
energy, if you do it right and your circuit is designed well.
Back emf capture, pulses, sounds very much like Bedini pulse charger "motor" setups.

I have asked him for a simple example that does not use a Bedini motor, but
that does use the same negative energy spike and capacitor transduction scheme,
but he wasn't able to give one. Or he was just way too busy. Either way, never got
an example clearer than his extensive model as described in his EftV and FEG books.

If you know something new that is not from his books, or if you have a design for
a capacitor-based OU circuit that accords to Beardens theoretical model,
please describe it? Thanks. :)

Regards,
Koen

patmac

Koen good answer...

I think who open this thread is a beginner, really, capacitor is a little key to extract energy from the vacuum, so, take your SG, and put a big capacitor 1 Farads or more, and measure the time.

My system is completly COP 1.0 measuring efficiency in this way. I've measured this test many times with differents voltage on power supply, charging the cap to 12 volts or 18 volts. All, All calculations give me COP 1.0, only you need modify the SG to get it better, coil impendances, sweet spot etc.

With batteries get the COP 1.0 is harder. I have no success with this, because I've test it with SLI batts, and no works, possibly to get high COP, with batts is better build ones cells.

I've no used a Vaccum Triode Amplifier, my results are compatible with Bearden explanations on DVD's, SG is only for beginners, is easily improved and modding to get high efficient, normally many replications on the web seems a switched conventional motor like the Adams, AND NEVER a Oscillator to produce eftv.


Regards.