Overunity.com Archives is Temporarily on Read Mode Only!



Free Energy will change the World - Free Energy will stop Climate Change - Free Energy will give us hope
and we will not surrender until free energy will be enabled all over the world, to power planes, cars, ships and trains.
Free energy will help the poor to become independent of needing expensive fuels.
So all in all Free energy will bring far more peace to the world than any other invention has already brought to the world.
Those beautiful words were written by Stefan Hartmann/Owner/Admin at overunity.com
Unfortunately now, Stefan Hartmann is very ill and He needs our help
Stefan wanted that I have all these massive data to get it back online
even being as ill as Stefan is, he transferred all databases and folders
that without his help, this Forum Archives would have never been published here
so, please, as the Webmaster and Creator of these Archives, I am asking that you help him
by making a donation on the Paypal Button above.
You can visit us or register at my main site at:
Overunity Machines Forum



The free energy in CAPACITOR

Started by Tito L. Oracion, December 06, 2008, 06:50:54 AM

Previous topic - Next topic

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Tito L. Oracion

@ Koen

Sir, I would like to appologize about what i had post, i think i mis understood what mr. beardens is showing, i really thougth its the capacitor doing the free energy
and i would like to thank you sir for clarification, i'm very interested about this method of mr. tom bearden, i included a figure where i was mis understood. thank you very much sir.

@ Patmac

  Yes sir i'm a beginner and i kept on researching on mr. bearden's method, now my question is,
  if we use the figure below are we really not make the battery drain?


Tito.

Tito L. Oracion

having difficulties uploading my figure, allowed size is 250 sorry,
i have to edit my file first but i will try later. what i want to upload is the figure of mr bearden's charging the caps and then discharge it separately to the load.


Koen1

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on December 26, 2008, 09:57:05 PM
@ Koen

Sir, I would like to appologize about what i had post, i think i mis understood what mr. beardens is showing, i really thougth its the capacitor doing the free energy
and i would like to thank you sir for clarification, i'm very interested about this method of mr. tom bearden, i included a figure where i was mis understood. thank you very much sir.

You are most welcome and no apologies are necessary at all. :)
It is clear that you are trying to find a viable OU setup as are we all here,
and that is a commendable goal. It is also not at all surprising that you
did not entirely grasp Beardens stoy yet, as the man has produced tons of
text and to get a good picture of what exactly he is saying one would
need to read most of what he wrote and then ponder that quite a bit.
I did not nor do I now intend to discourage you from your OU studies,
and I hope my post has helped to give you a bit of a clearer picture
of Beardens story. :)

Quote
@ Patmac

  Yes sir i'm a beginner and i kept on researching on mr. bearden's method, now my question is,
  if we use the figure below are we really not make the battery drain?

Sorry, I know this was meant @Patmac, but in regard to the pics you posted here,
I thought I'd throw in a few thoughts. ;)

Those pictures of the concept of the degenerate conductor switching circuit are
slightly different from the "transducing energy from the vacuum" principle as
used in the Bedini and VTA setups.
In this concept, Bearden basically says that potential and current, though
linked, are not indivisibly the same thing; The idea here being that current aka a flow
of electrons through a conductor does not start untill the potential difference is
"communicated" through the conductor. To put it simply, when we hook up a battery
(electron source) to a wire, immediately the potential of the battery terminals is applied
to the ends of the wire. Now the "information" that there is a potential on either end
is "communicated" through the electrons in the conductor, that "tell eachother" there
is a potential on their side. When the "information" of both the positive and the negative
terminal potential is "communicated", only then does the entire batch of electrons
"realise" they have a place to flow to and a reason to flow, and only after that they will
start to flow trough the conductor. When they're flowing, they can flow "out of" the conductor
at the batteries positive terminal and "into" the conductor at the batteries negative
terminal, replentishing the electron "content" of the conductor, and maintaining the flow.
The time it takes between the point of connection to the terminals and the point where
the electrons "realise" they can flow is called the "relaxation time" of the conductor.
Ok, now what Bearden basically says in this concept is that we can use a conductor
with a relatively long "relaxation time", and if we are fast enough at disconnecting the
battery terminals and at the same time connecting a load circuit, the electrons will
"realise" they can flow and begin to move at the exact point where the load is connected,
thus causing electron flow in the load circuit instead of the battery.
According to this idea, the electrons will flow a bit, then "realise" there no longer is a
potential difference from the battery terminals, and then stop moving again.
At this point we should switch the connections back, so that the electrons in the wire
"see" the potential again and "communicate" this to eachother again, and once again
when they finally start moving, we quickly switch the connections.
This way we would be sort of "tricking" the electrons into moving by making them "think"
there's a battery as current source, but then when they're all "convinced" that they
want to move we quickly force them through the circuit and give them no chance to
actually flow to and from the battery. Before they realise they no longer have a battery
to flow to and from, they've already moved through the circuit a little bit.
That's roughly the idea here. Hope this explanation is usefull. ;)

I must say I haven't seen one single working version of this concept yet,
but it is an interesting idea. I'm not sure if it will actually work though... ;)

patmac

Tito...

For me that pic, is like a algorithm of a working devices, show some elements to develop a high efficient devices, Beardens explains only theory, obviously there are looses when you build a devices in real life. Some important elements on the pic is: Source, Collector, Load and first all THE SWTCHING SYSTEM, if you analyse that algorithm, you'll see a open loop source never is connected to load.... Now you can compare that system with Bedini SG, is 90% identical, on SG, you have Source Battery, Coil (Collector), and Load (Battery Charging), and the rotor give you timing, a little mechanical power. But on Bedini SG, only separate the (+) of the Battery source in respect to Load or Battery charging, but, Battery charing no loose negative side. SG produces the named radiant spike, and this radiant spike can supercharge a lead acid battery in proper conditions. This is not conventional energy, if you connect a bulb no light, but if connect a big capacitor is anormally charged fast with respect to watts IN. This is possible with lead acid battery in PROPER CONDITIONS BIG DEEP CYCLE BATTERIES, anothers batteries is very hard see the effect, but is possible see the supercharging effect. For example, my 5aH motorcycle battery was 12.56 volts brand new, after some cycles discharging and charging was charged with a conventional charger (SG no charge correctly SLI batts), and now show 12.72 volts when is fully charged.

To power a load with the SG you need a capacitor or lead acid batt, and power the load with another switching system on open loop. My test were with a audio car 1.5 farads capacitor electrolitic, this electrolitic capacitors flows many currents because electrolyte is for increase his capacitance, Bearden explains in his page for use a capacitor like a free energy source, you'll need a RIGID PLATES CAPACITORS, this capacitor no move his plates when is charged and discharged.


Koen

If that theory is incorrect, explains this:

Go to power station grid of you city, and go to ask, how much thousand volts is transmitting the energy, and think about the answer maybe 100.000 volts at least, look the relatively low AWG WIRE, how that THIN WIRE CAN POWER A HOLE CITY?