"Free energy" and "Overunity" We need a definition.

[WilbyInebriated]

But they are performing as one, a Whole, 100%.

and yet... they cannot give more than 100%. neither as individuals nor as a whole.

[Liberty]

But they are performing as one, a Whole, 100%.  In this case the whole can perform more than the 100% input that was externally added.  It does omit the extra % added by the free energy source, as measured at the output, since the free energy source is not counted as input or as the whole from the beginning.

So in this sense, the whole measured output can exceed 100% of the externally added input (not counting the free energy source, since it is usually conserved until the device operates).

[WilbyInebriated]

So in this sense, the whole measured output can exceed 100% of the externally added input (not counting the free energy source, since it is usually conserved until the device operates).

oh god...  here we go AGAIN...

we ALREADY have terms like COP and such to describe what it is you are trying to say. if you insist upon using the term overunity in the context you are using it in you will need to come up with a cogent definition. so far, you have not.

[Liberty]

oh god...  here we go AGAIN...

we ALREADY have terms like COP and such to describe what it is you are trying to say. if you insist upon using the term overunity in the context you are using it in you will need to come up with a cogent definition. so far, you have not.

It's good to see you call out to God when you get stressed, but that is another thread... 

Do you have any suggestions, that you can agree with, now that we know what these devices do?

[evolvingape]

it would be COP > 1...

with regards to 'overunity'. this is a made up compound word. what 'unity' means or 'is', was never defined by the originator of the term 'overunity'. if unity is taken to mean what it traditionally means, there can be no such thing as 'overunity'...   similarly, one cannot be 'overdead'...   

Correct again!

I will explain why another time, I'm going to bed. I will let you and Liberty duke it out first, it is quite clear to me who understands, and who doesn't.