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Solid State Bedini Charger - Easy to Build

Started by supermuble, December 14, 2008, 11:17:16 PM

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tarcius

So my book that i posted in my previous post got removed by admin.
That's ok because i discovered my own solid state bedini charger and i am giving it here for free.

I also don't have money and parts and burn them like others but i am not selfish bastard that charge for technology which in turn could prove benificial to mankind.
This forum should not protect people that asks money and sell books here. That is just wrong on FREE energy forum.
This forum should not be about that, but about finding way to convert one kind of readily available energy to another but with use of free tools (eg. information)

But enough about that i am not here to get in conflict with anyone if admins like this way then ok.

here is my very simple way to test and build solid state radiant charger with readily available parts.

I get around 135 V spikes from circuit.
Circuit itself consumes 1.4 W with no load connected
Transistor never gets hot no matter what you connect at output.
So far i run bright LEDs, charged big capacitors, charged some small batteries and even saw some tiny sparks.
What is interesting is that i never saw my neon light lit which is odd.
Now to my instructions:

I used this  shematic
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/5676/cl8u.jpg

Used fans exactly like these ones:
http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/8518/qtyu.jpg
One is 80mm other is 120 mm standard pc fan:

My setup looks like this right now and works.
http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/2896/pi7k.jpg

I marked wires with numbers 1-4 and also added numbers to first fan core poles to show where wires are connected.
Number 1 wire goes to the potentiometer.
Number 2 wire goes to the colector
Number 3 wire goes to the (-) output and (+) input
Number 4 wire goes to the emiter

The resistor that i added goes between wire (1) and potentiometer and his value is 560 Ohm
You may not need this resistor as you may have different potentiometer range but this setup works without this resistor.

If setup do not start when connecting power supply try set potentiometer to min value.

when you hear faint whining from cores than it's operational.
if someone knows how this circuit operates and what are the relation with second fan core and why this works in solid state please comment.

If someone have additional questions feel free to ask.
And yes please be kind. this was build very quickly and i know it look's terrible design but hey it works feel free to improve and post results here.


TinselKoala

Please start with two batteries that are the same kind, one depleted and one fully charged.

1. Measure the voltage open-circuit of each battery and record it, compute the average (V1 + V2)/2  and record that.

2. Then run the charger. When the charged battery is fully charged, disconnect and measure the voltages of both batteries as before, record the voltages and compute the average and record that.

3. Then swap the batteries and run the charger. Go to Step 2.

4. Continue looping this way for at least 10 iterations.

5. Plot the average voltages you have computed in Steps 2 against the "swap number".

6. Report your results here.



mscoffman




One additional thing I think should be done is to apply a high current dummy resistive
load, such as an incandescent headlamp, sized for the battery, for one or two
seconds, then turn off, before measuring the open circuit voltage of a battery.
I  think this dummy load current would break through the *surface charge* voltage
and would represent more of a realistic battery voltage. This could easily be done
under control of a microcomputer. The microcontroller might want to attribute the
energy lost to the dummy load to the battery charge. The microcontroller might want to
limit the number of battery voltage readings per unit time and use voltage estimates
at other times. This dummy load measurement would need be taken into account
if one expects to see a low charge rate of overunity energy out of a circuit. What
I am saying is one may need to use a certain amount of sophisication in measuring
potential overunity energy deposited in acid/lead batteries.


:S:MarkSCoffman

Farmhand

Also the batteries should be new or near new and both in the same condition. This was recommended in one of their battery charging test procedures. The reason I think that is important is that sulfated batteries will likely gain capacity as the process goes on, and that gain in battery capacity can mean more energy out of the battery after few runs, some potential can be "locked up" in sulfated batteries I think. If desulfating them makes them work better then it might look like extra energy when it isn't.

Cheers

P.S. It is important to note that John Bedini went to capacitor dump charging in preference to the direct diode method. My guess is for reasons of better charging.

..

The Bedini system using a capacitor or even a battery is basically "Boost converter" technology. A boost converter with a circuit to dump the cap to break up the DC to the battery into pulses.

Attachment 1 below is a Picaxe controlled solar battery conditioner schematic, it takes the 20 volts of the solar panels and uses that to charge a capacitor which it dumps to the battery at about 17 volts in full charge mode at whatever frequency is required to deal with the power.

Then when the solar input becomes less than 16 volts or so, the input is then switched through a coil "in the boost converter style" then dumped to the battery from about 22 to 26 volts depending on how it is adjusted.

The picaxe senses voltages and when the battery reaches full charge the system goes into float mode and trickles enough power to keep the battery at 13.8 volts, if the battery is then loaded it goes back to charging mode.

I had to teach myself enough Basic to program the picaxe to do what I wanted it to.

When the sun is faded or morning afternoon the battery is conditioned with 24 volt cap dumps at varying frequency depending on the input from the panels. This is a leave and forget system with no overcharging of batteries and free input.

I see no difference to the Bedini switching and dumping circuits. It's old tech with lashing of hype and innuendo.

With a small change the solar circuit becomes a boost converter proper and with max current and max voltage control. See attachement 2

Cheers






ferrarijody

Quote from: SteveOll on January 21, 2009, 06:12:55 PM
I have just finished building the solid state device this evening. I have been sternly warned not to give out the schematic to anyone, but it is available in the Bedini-Bearden Free Energy Generation book.

I decided to test the output with the source 12V battery before attaching the destination battery. The circuit output terminals gives approx 205-211 Volts DC and the trifilar coilsgive a constant high pitched whine "Deeeeeeeeeeeeeee".

When I connect the destination battery (a small 12V 18Ah battery) to the circuit the 200 v reading disappears and the voltage started rising over the past half and hour from 10.40V to 13.16V (currently) on the destination battery. Also I checked and found that the circuit produces NO CURRENT when it is charging. Most noticeable is that the sound given off by the coils has changed to a "De-de-de-de-de-de-de" sound while still at the same pitch as before - maybe this is the voltage pulsing like the Stan Meyer circuit?

I will continue to monitor this...

-Steve

Hello Steve,
I am reviewing that book now. What page is the circuit diagram on?

How is this project going for you? I am thinking of building one.

Anything i should look out for?

Thank you,
Jody