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Started by nievesoliveras, December 21, 2008, 11:28:28 AM

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Pirate88179

@ Jesus:

Check with Gadgetmall on this but I believe it is correct.  Your motor is charging the battery in pulses similar to a Bedini charger.  Batteries used in the Bedini type chargers have to be "conditioned" by charging and discharging more than a few times before they work well.  I have not done this....yet, but I have read this in many different places.  Once conditioned, the batteries should work even better than they were rated for when new.  I am not sure what type works better, lithium ion or ni cad, I really don't know.  I have read that some rechargeables do not work well if at all.  Hope this helps.

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

Yucca

Quote from: gadgetmall on February 18, 2009, 07:49:25 PM
the Guy is wrong . BEMF is only produce when the dc current is released . so when he hooks up a battery the first pulse is normal induction but when he released the battery one larger BEMF pulse is release . This is why bedini uses a diods to capture the ONE bemf pulse which is much higher that the original Normal first induction pulse .

Yes, it´s also wrong because it labels the lamp as a "6V neon" lol. You won´t find any neon that will light at 6V, but the BEMF of a hundred or more volts will pulse a neon nicely.

Mk1

@jesus

If one could switch those battery around, every few minutes , you would charge both bat.

Pirate88179

@ MK1:

Isn't there a way to switch the batteries (as you said) electronically ever few minutes?  I mean, maybe even just electrically or electro-mechanically.  Some simple device that would swap them out on a set time period.  I had been thinking about this with the original Bedini a while back but since I didn't finish the motor then, I gave it no further thought.  Seems like it would not be too hard to do some way....what do you think?

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

nievesoliveras

Quote from: Pirate88179 on February 19, 2009, 12:56:45 PM
@ Jesus:

Check with Gadgetmall on this but I believe it is correct.  Your motor is charging the battery in pulses similar to a Bedini charger.  Batteries used in the Bedini type chargers have to be "conditioned" by charging and discharging more than a few times before they work well.  I have not done this....yet, but I have read this in many different places.  Once conditioned, the batteries should work even better than they were rated for when new.  I am not sure what type works better, lithium ion or ni cad, I really don't know.  I have read that some rechargeables do not work well if at all.  Hope this helps.

Bill

thank you @pirate
I read something about that. But I suppose to inform the truth of what happens with my circuits.
I will give it another chance, I will put the batteries to charge again and connect them to the pulse motor until dead and recharge again. It is a very slow process though.

Quote from: Mk1 on February 19, 2009, 03:09:35 PM
@jesus

If one could switch those battery around, every few minutes , you would charge both bat.

Thank you @mk1

That is something that must people are doing. The only problem is to make a simple circuit to do the swapping.

Thank you @yucca
Thank you @gadgetmall

Jesus