Feedback To Source

[nievesoliveras]

How can you guys keep on discussing circuits like these in order to reach overunity .....
So why do you keep trying something that can't ever be overunity in any way, no matter how you "design" it?
Is it perhaps your ignorance and curiosity that's driving you all?

We keep trying instead of getting others to quit trying to improve their way of live.

Jesus

[nievesoliveras]

How can we?  How can you not?  If not, why are you here anyway?

Bill

Thank you @pirate

Jesus

[nul-points]

The motor without connecting the feedback to the battery works perfectly and you can connect the diode output to another battery and it gets charged.

Jesus

ok, that's great, thanks Jesus

i just wanted to double-check that your components operate & stay ok if you don't connect that 1N4007

don't forget my comment earlier that you won't get as much energy fed back to the battery as you did before, when you now just use the motor coil-field collapse spike energy

what has been happening in the circuit is that energy from the 1.5V battery has been inverted to 12V DC and stored in your 47uF cap to run the motor

because there was a direct DC path from that cap back to the battery whenever you connected the 1N4007 to it, you were getting energy fed back in two forms

1) the coil-field collapse energy (which you want to feedback to source)

2) energy at 12V DC, which had just been converted from the battery and was then going straight back to it - and also going into the LT device (causing damage)

i believe that your circuit is intended for the 12V DC energy ONLY to power the motor

so my suggested circuit addition enables you to collect the energy from the motor field collapse spikes whilst leaving the 12V DC energy as input only to the motor

take the example you just mentioned of feeding the 1N4007 to charge a *different* battery:

the 2nd battery is not only getting charged by motor field collapse spikes - it is also getting some charge from the 1st battery (after the energy has been converted to 12V DC)

this means that the 1st battery will *discharge* faster, because extra energy is going from it 'straight' into the 2nd battery

well, the same thing happens in your original circuit if you try to feedback to the source - the battery gets extra charge from the 12V DC cap - but it also has to get extra  discharge to keep the cap at 12V!

i hope i've written this clearly, so you won't be surprised when you try the new arrangement - the important thing is to stop the damage to the circuit by decoupling the 12V DC from the feedback path so you can see how much more efficient your whole system is when you can feedback the coil-field collapse energy to the source

all the best
np


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[FatChance!!!]

How can we?  How can you not?  If not, why are you here anyway?

Bill

I'm here to find some serious research....not crackpot research performed by ignorant hillbillies.
But perhaps I have to give up on my dream. Everywhere I read I just seem to find delusional ideas.

[allcanadian]

@Fatchance

I'm here to find some serious research....not crackpot research performed by ignorant hillbillies.
But perhaps I have to give up on my dream. Everywhere I read I just seem to find delusional ideas.

For hundreds upon hundreds of years the critics have always called inventors and scientists delusional or misguided and for hundreds upon hundreds of years they have always found success in doing what the critics have said cannot be done.
I have found my work in this field to be a bit like panning for gold, we have to cover a great deal of area and material until we find what were looking for and it takes a great deal of time and patience. As well many times we find what were looking for in the most unlikely of places, it was never about delusion or ignorance to the supposed facts it is about being in the right place at the right time and being prepared to accept what we find regardless of any opinions we may have.
The fact remains, if you have never found success then how do you know the good people here never will? If we are to be judged I would be far more inclined to believe someone who has actually found success rather than the opinion of someone who has not.

Regards
AC