Tesla's Flying Machine

[onthecuttingedge2005]

@onthecuttingedge2005:

Hi Jerry,
With respect to the drawing in Reply #25:

Wouldn't the electrons impacting the rear part of the thruster cause a thrust-cancelling kinetic energy effect on the whole thing?

If the rear impact part was electrically conductive, would the inevitable electrical resistance cause inefficiencies?  Unless the thing was superconductive?

--Lee

thrust only counts as it leaves it highest pressure zone, once a particle separates itself from the main body it becomes a mean free particle and no longer delivers any direct thrusting to the vehicle.

but in this EHD thruster design the electrons will always travel faster than the spaceship, the efficiency can be upped by returning the mean free electron to the rear of the ship so that the electrons kinetic mass gives the ship an additional kick in the aft going in the same direction, not opposed.

you could do a simple experiment.

1. put some nice roller skates on that are well lubed.
2. Take one large Boomerang.
3. Throw the boomerang very hard but make sure it comes back to you. notice you roll back when it is thrown.
4. as the boomerang comes back to your hand and you catch it the Boomerang will redeliver its kinetic energy back to you causing you to roll back further.

simple analogy but I hope you understand.

Jerry

[Magumbo]

Magumbo,  Thanks for updating here.  Hopefully this is not a case similar to a movie I once saw with Meryl Streep in it - I think it was called Dark Matter.  If I recall the student or colleague was more brilliant than the professor and the professor either wanted the credit for what the student/colleague had discovered or was wanting to suppress it so he wouldn't have to deal with the embarrassment of having a student come up with something better than he could. 

   Just remember to cover yourself as well as any ties you have with others.  Hopefully the outcome allows you to post the info here as I'll bet there would be people here willing to try building such a fascinating device.  .  I've always wanted an anti-gravity platform 

No worries.  I'm not a student and am just making sure this is documented and handled properly.

[the_big_m_in_ok]

@onthecuttingedge2005
With respect to Reply #40,
I see now that I was thinking the thrust I saw as being reversed in my mind.  I see your point now.

Something is still concerning me:
After the electrons travel back up the center conductor, they're going in the opposite direction of the thrust, yes?  Does this matter in terms of mass direction of travel and kinetic energy?

Is the loss of electrical power by resistance a factor?

One other concept:
Suppose you have a radioactive source that imparts thrust to a ship by its emanating subatomic particles.  The point of the concept is to confine the particles to a container filled with an inert gas to slow down the particles for reuse in making more thrust for the ship by electrical recycling, sort of.  The slowing down transfers energy to the ship as thrust by the mere action of slowing down.
(It's and old concept I remember from my teenage years.  That's what I remember.)

--Lee

[v71]

I think that Magumbo means that a rotating mass which has linear velocity greater than the linear velocity earth , relative to the point the same device stand still, goes airbone.
By the way i love Grebbennikov too.

[TechStuf]

By the way i love Grebbennikov too

Could've made an awesome movie....


I found his story somewhat incongruous, especially considering his professed love of these, as yet, presumably unidentified insects.  How does one then account for his collection of, apparently, a great many of their parts?

We may only surmise that such 'insecticide' was for the greater good....

Who knows, if it's one thing I'm certifiably certain on, it's that Truth is stranger than fiction.  And Absolute Truth, absolutely stranger.

(insert Rod Serling theme here)


TS