Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!

[Groundloop]

@gyulasun,

OK, I will try that.

Attached is a image of my moving Iron amp meter while the motor is running.
(The scale of the meter is 1 ampere. First marking after zero is 0,1 ampere.)

[Edit1] I did try capacitors ranging from 5pF 33pF 100pF 1nF 10nF 220nF. At 220nF the trigger coil started to
          work as an generator and slowed down the rotor due to Lentz law. So I did not work.

Groundloop

[gyulasun]

Many thanks for testing it,  it is pity Nature does not give in easily...

I would like to refer to this link and give credit to gadgetmall where he showed his schematic with the capacitor shunted potmeters, though in a bit different way: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6123.msg159208#msg159208

Keep up good work.

rgds,  Gyula

[Hoppy]

Hi all

I've had my Eureka moment!! Having watched Fausto's excellent set of videos, I altered my circuit a little to replicate his output diode network with the neon and cap. Initially I started to see small increases in voltage using two 2.8A/hr SLA 12V batteries in series. The voltage eventually stopped rising, I happened to be looking at my AVO current meter which is in series with the battery when I readjusted the pot and noticed that the sweet spot appeared to be in a sub-resonant dip where the current drops and then rises again. These dips will be familiar to anyone who has experimented with Bedini SG energisers. I very carefully adjusted the pot untill I was in the bottom of the dip and at this point I started to see the voltage rise again. This time it kept on rising even though I was drawing 48mA from the batteries and the fan was spinning quite fast (I need to measure the RPM). The initial rise was rather eratic with the voltage rising and falling but eventually it steadied and began to rise with no fluctuations. As the voltage steadied, the fan began to vibrate quite badly and I had to clamp it down to my bench!

I have attached three scope shots of the waveform taken across the transistor collector / emitter. The first photo is taken at 5V / 20uS. Photo 2 is at 5V/2mS and photo 3 is at 5V / 0.5mS. I'm quite staggered at these waveforms as they show the spikes developing into sinus waveforms in photo 1.

I think that Gadget has really found something here and thanks to him we can explore this in detail as its replicated by two of us now. I'm using a converted 24V fan, so the fan appears not to be too critical only the tuning.

Hoppy

[Groundloop]

@Hoppy,

What was the start up rest voltage on your batteries?
Did the voltage in the batteries climb above the start up voltage?

Groundloop.

[Hoppy]

@Hoppy,

What was the start up rest voltage on your batteries?
Did the voltage in the batteries climb above the start up voltage?

Groundloop.

That's a good question because I did not record the exact start up rest voltage because the charging effect started up suddenly whilst I was fiddling with the tuning without me being prepared to do a recorded test run. However, I can say that the rest voltage was higher than the voltage reached before I terminated the test run. I had hoped to let it run on but the neon leads shorted together and knocked it out of tune after the voltage had climbed up at about 0.2V.  I can only get good high charging with two poor conditioned 12V SLA batteries in series with a combined on-load voltage of around 18V. I tried out two well conditioned good batteries of the same make and labelled capacity but could not find a 'sweet spot' where I could get the voltage to climb very well.

I'm happy I've seen the effect that both Gadget and Fausto have seen over a period of time but I think the cause of it is something to do with the two batteries being bad and in in series because I cannot get the effect with just one bad 12V battery. It will be interesting to see if Fausto can get high charging with two small well charged and conditioned SLA  batteries.

This is an excellent project even if it turns out that this is not a true self-charging setup because it will have cleared a few mysteries about other motor projects running at very low power which appear to self-charge or at least hold unity.

Hoppy