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Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!

Started by Goat, January 09, 2009, 11:54:12 AM

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plengo

Quote from: gadgetmall on February 09, 2009, 01:07:03 PM
@plengo
   thank you for attempting to replicate . i have not tried it on a very high amp battery yet . Here is the schematic you requested with the additions . i forgot to put the value of the osc cap . its 1mfd 200v NON-pol cap ..  the other thing is the little glass diode on the  base /collector . i don't know the value . it might even be a zener . i just grab what i got check the transistor for pins where npn or pnp  and go with it . i do know that my fan unit will blow a 100 volt cap on the secondary so be careful . it put out over 250 volts without a neon . i didn't want to blow the windings so i use a neon
So I am running a new series of test using the schematic of gadgemall with the diode on the base of the transistor "as it is on the schematic" (inverted). Surprisingly enough it runs!

The minimum I can say for now is that this circuit when using the cap and connecting the positive of the battery to the cap it runs a lot more economically than without. Somehow the returned energy to the battery seams to alleviate the load on the battery and help to run longer.

Fausto.

hoptoad

Quote from: plengo on February 09, 2009, 06:18:39 PM
@hoptoad,

hey, good do see you hoptoad. Excellent stuff of yours about the Adam's motor that you sent. I really liked your explanation about "why" it works as it works.

Fausto.

Hi Fausto, I'm glad you liked my explanation. If you are talking in particular about my explanation of the accelerating effect caused by the passive generator pickup coils during heavy load, the explanation can still be considered as only an opinion, and I'm open to other explanations, provided they can be backed up by more than just assertions and assumptions.

You may be aware that I've been keeping track of Thanes thread, and recently there have been some interesting points made by other forum members about longitudinal permeability variations along the length of a core.

If indeed Thane is able to get more torque and speed with his arrangement than would otherwise be available if the generator coils were not present at all, then it is quite possible that the effect is not only due to the reasons I outlined, (which only explains core drag negation) but also due to other effects in the core.

In other words, the acceleration beyond no load rpm may be attributable to more than just one effect occurring simultaneously. That might help to explain why the acceleration effect is so variable in its manifestation and why some cores seem to work well and others don't work at all.

I'm still waiting for more data and possible explanations before I make up my mind, and I'm in no hurry to make a definitive choice from the  explanations presented thus far, including my own explanation.

Cheers and KneeDeep  :)

P.S. Sorry for being a little off topic here.

gadgetmall

@ All . Hoppy and others i am very happy to inform you that this is not the Peukert effect' . I had convinced My self after running one for 4 days that is was indeed something else . So i said to Myself . If it really is charging then i can take a dead battery(conditioned with a bedini for 3 months )  with just enough juice to run it and see .Mine will run on less than 4 volts  Well I took a battery and Discharged it with a 12 volt light last night  and it was very dim this morning . Voltage was a wopping 10.09 volts  I hooked it up to Powersupplybedini48 .feed it back  the fan was barley turning draw was a mild 5 ma. Tonight My dead battery is almost fully charged 13.08 volts !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So . Its the real thing dudes . I am hooking up some LEds to run while its charging and see if there is enuff current to run a load/indicator and selfcharge . Its really working Guys .!!!! Replicate it as i have done with this exact fan transistor and rectifier .. I have a few dozen spares of the rca rectifier for 20 dollars each . I have not found a source for them other than My goldmine as you will see . i posted the link a few pages back  to buy the fans for 1.75 us .. Get them while you can .thats  DIRT CHEAP and THE BIGGEST BRUSH LESS FAN YOU CAN GET .pretty soon they will be out and if i am the only one with them they will be much much higher . they are worth there weight in gold .  this is proof in my book . I will be auctioning My prototypes on ebay very soon to gather up some funds to live on your money back within 10 days of testing and returned units  . I promise . also i am changing some parts for the next one . it will consist of a custom  enclosure . led to replace base diode to tell its on during self oscillate mode because when its tuned just right  you cannot hear it so it needs an indicator .there will be a reserve on them for the auction . How Much is proof of self charging worth . . right now id say a whole lot and if this can be made much bigger with large 110 volt window fans rewired and modded i see an inverter in that picture . I have shared a lot of things on this site and have given all you need to do it yourself . From now on i have to say i am backing out for awhile and concentrate on making some money from My Circuits and ideas . If anyone in the world needs money its me . we are broke . on food stamps . losing my truck soon . i owe 14000 more dollars on it and my income is less than 500 per month for me and My 7 year old daughter . I am permanently disabled with vertigo nasua and migrains as there is nothing further after almost 3 years of treatment that the docs can do . Do you Blame me ? If yall can't make it . well then i can but they are going for a price . take care and good luck !
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Quote from: plengo on February 09, 2009, 03:15:48 PM
I also used brand new SLA that I just purchased at RadioShack on sarturday ($34.99 each ouch!!). They had resting voltages at 12.65v both. So I assume they were indeed new and never used.

I ALSO understand, based on my over 200 load tests that I did on the past over an SSG, that SLAs are horrible for converting the radiant energy into negative energy (as Bedini explains). Flooded cells are much better and react better with this kind of energy but again testing against my 100amp/hour battery would take me literaly weeks before seeing the effect of 15ma draw of power from this circuit.

I will try again, off course, the schematic presented by gadgetmall (thank you for the schematics and keeping us informed). I will test against my new SLAs, my old SLAs (very bad damaged batteries) and my flooded lead acid ones.

Ah also, I fell to mention my 48v fan has a 150 ohms resitance on the two windings together and another 150 ohms on the other two windings together which makes me believe that each widing or pole is really 75 ohms.

Fausto.
just a note that the charge test was done on a wet cell motorcycle battery . John Bedini is right that overunity is in these battery's. I also have a very large Bank of Forklift wet cells 24 volt bank i restored with My other Large sg . she is hot now with three inverters on it now total 8000 watts at 120vac 60cycles . Its being charged with  4 panels i bought from the carrizo plant in California for dirt cheap each panel is i1footby 4 feet so i have a4x4 foot setup tracking the sun with a homemade sat dish mount and setup producing 28 volts 9 amps in the sun . this used to put out 29 volts 15 amps so after almost 20 years they lost a little . you can buy them as they change them every 10 or so years , they focus mirrors on them and get 10folds off the silicon solar cells so they are slightly Brown when  i got them . back then they were 100 per panel . these panels would normally be 1700-2000 new each . investment on My solar panels forkliftbatterys and inverters is 1000 dollars . I got a deal on a trace inverter its sine wave and the other two inverters i found in the military junk yard . she runs the house for 5 days as i have a backup 12 volt freezer/refrigerator i picked up at a flee market for 20 bucks . it was used by the Nc agricultural Lab team to keep frozen fish samples on the road . I like alot . it has a tiny compressor in it and runs off a dead 12 volt battery all day long . Sweet ..i know :)  . well i have electricity now when they come to shut me off . so lights and entertainment and keeping food cold is no problem .
I have been in the free energy stuff for a very long time and it needs to pay off now . keep at it . it works .try a zener in place of the diode on base . .I did that it charges faster with the fan running just barely ,not in osc mod . it must be the pulses ? . i don't know and i don't care really . i don't need to know how it works all i need is the benefits it is  give me .That goes for My piggyback system . it runs 24-7 . i need to put it to good use when spring gets here . It just overcharges sla batterys and burns them up . I dont have an automatic switcher made yet so i have frankinstine knife switches i have to remember to throw every several days . EDIT . I forgot about Water . The Bastards shut My Watert off and i am paid up!!. If it isn;t one thing its the other .
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gadgetmall

Quote from: plengo on February 09, 2009, 03:20:28 PM
@ gadgetmall

are you sure the diode on the base of the transistor is connected correctly? would it be the other way around? the way I see it sounds like it is shorting the battery via the trigger coil.

[Edit] not really shorting the battery (sorry about that) but it is different of the regular SSG.

Fausto.
Its so tiny that yes it probably goes the other way  . . it should be as a standard circuit , i did not reference it with his circuit but then again the diode is very tiny and glass . i could not see the mark for anode . another thing is it might be a zener . i dont know the breakdown voltage . it came from a atx power supply .
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