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Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!

Started by Goat, January 09, 2009, 11:54:12 AM

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plengo

Today I got my 48v fan and I could not stand the excitement of modifying it and put it to work. It was very easy to open it remove the existing circuit and modify the poles from 3 to 4. I did not even needed to install posts to hold the wires I just solded the wired to the enameled coils and bend them into place. Put all together and replaced my 12v fan with the new 48 fan.

AND, guess how well it runs? IT IS GORGEOUS. It really runs in self-mode and charge another 100amp/h battery.

This fan runs extremely quiet and the signal is just the very known Bedini H curve signal. BEAUTIFULL!!!!

I can witness that this indeed works.

I will post pictures, videos and so on. I am on the works!

Fausto.

Hoppy

Hi all

I have replicated gadgetmails self runner circuit and I can give it a provisional thumbs up. I did not use a fan and instead wound a bifilar on an empty copper wire spool with 0.2mm dia ECW. The strand resistance is 70 ohms and the iron core is made from welding rods. The circuit is as per gadgetmails except I needed to add a diode in the connection between the cap pos and battery pos. A tap from a magnet is needed to start the oscillator and then left attached to one end of the iron core. after I dump the cap to battery, the oscillator continues at a low frequency only if the cap is of a high enough capacity. I found that 470uF works as does 220uF but low value caps will not work.

My battery does initially climb in voltage after the cap is dumped but stabilises out eventually. This is partly just the battery being taken off load from charging the cap but if a reasonably heavy load is applied for a short period, the battery does appear to re-charge quite quickly and returns to a voltage very close to the stabilised voltage. If the battery is left just powering the oscillator, it does not appear to discharge despite the 17mA being drawn by the oscillator. The circuit has been running for 18hrs so far without a drop in battery voltage. Another 24 hours will give me a better idea of whether anything special is going on after at least half an ampere hour has been removed from the battery.

I have attached the circuit shematic.

Hoppy

Hoppy

@ gadgetmall

I picked this out the following from an earlier post of yours: -

"i had a few bad comments on the powersupply bedin saying it was a scam and some how i faked the video . that pissed me off . then there was another guy that told me DMM dont measure right with High frequency .....

I would say you should be delighted that you got a response like this from John Bedini. In my book it means you maybe onto something! I have seen similar responses from him to other people who in my opinion started to get 'too close'.

Hoppy

Hoppy

Further tests have shown me that there is in fact no charging effect with my setup. The oscillations are being sustained at a very low current, in my case around 14mA. My waveform has a very short duty cycle and the power consumed by the oscillator is barely enough to illuminate a red LED very dimly. The effect of this is that the battery is under an extremely light load. The initial rise in terminal voltage after the cap dump can be quite prolonged but the terminal voltage will stabilise at some point very close to the original unloaded battery voltage. After this the discharge is extremeIy slow and in this very light loading condition the 'Peukert effect' effectively increases the ampere hour rating of the battery, making it very difficult to see a reduction in battery terminal voltage even over long periods of time. It can be better seen using a very low capacity battery that is slightly sulfated (has high internal resistance). I used a small 2.8A/hr SLA which was in bad condition.

I would agree with John Bedini in this case that self charging the primary battery is not possible with this setup. It is an illusionary effect caused by recovery after cap discharge.

Hoppy

plengo

@ Hoppy,

thank you for your response. I was very excited too in the beggining. My new setup with 48v fan running with two brand new 12v 5ah SLAs seams to have the exact same effect, slow discharging but still discharging.

It would be great if gadgetmall could give a more detail schematic and component parts so that I could replicate in more perfection.

So far for me, even though I was very excited with my initial results, is that it is indeed discharging when using an SLA. I also must say that under a flooded lead acid battery I still do not have a conclusive result because my battery is 100ah and therefore will take a good week to see any results.

I have not given up yet, I am still testing different configurations.

Fausto.