Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!

[AbbaRue]

After running for about 30 min. the motor went unstable and shut off.
I can't seem to keep a steady speed on the motor.

But I made a very interesting discovery:
I disconnected the battery and my meter still read 4.7 volts.
I had no capacitors in the circuit at all, so I couldn't account for the 4.7 volts.
I removed every piece one by one to home in on the power source.
The ground off my scope was needed. 

I am using a   TIP150 NPN Transistor. 
(I tested other NPN transistors and they worked also. but this one gets the highest voltage)
I discovered that if you connect the collector to ground and the emitter to some type of antenna,
you will get a voltage between the collector and emitter.
The collector is the positive and the emitter is the negative, the base isn't used.
The collector and emitter of a transistor can be used to make a negative resistance oscillator,
so this must have something to do with that as well.

Here is a link for those that are interested in the Negister:
http://jlnlabs.online.fr/cnr/negosc.htm

Maybe this is were the excess power in these systems is coming from.
When I placed a capacitor across it I built a 5.45 volt charge in a few minuites.
The type of antenna is important, keep trying different things for it.
I wonder if this could be used to power a Joule Thief?

This finding may be the start of a whole new topic.

[plengo]

Hi Hoppy . I never said i Fried a Battery with a powersupplybedini I kind of think it might after a few months but i am running a jt on it now and have a happy point of staying charged and lights .  I did say I fried batteries with My Bedini ,the original one that the thread was started on . I cooked two so far and working on the third .(SLA) It puts out so much voltage and current it lights a 130 volt incandescent bulb and it charges itself .If i dont switch out with two knife switches ever three days and load it while charging they burn up .  I have not Fried any wet cells ever only sla . Now My 48 volt PowersupplyBedini Will Charge a Dead  (10volt) wet cell battery to over 13 volts in a days time . I have done this . But i have not cooked one and i don't intend to as i dont have any more to cook so i want to be careful .I stopped My Big Bedini . i only have three SLA battery left .I know i was drying it out when the voltage gets to 17 volts (ouch)
I am Glad you guys are seeing something strange . Its called OU I don't think you all would recognize it even if you are looking at it   I gave up trying to figure it out as why it works .Like i said before .I am happy with just using the extra power it makes and knowing i have Genuinely given you My Designs and results . I see you got it . But with all the test and stuff after you get it it messes it up . get it going set it in a corner for a few weeks and Build ya another one while its charging itself .If you find a flat magnet it will stay   Oh one more thing . It will adjust the sweet spot much better using two pots i can hit the spot anytime i want with the second one on there and neither of them are at  a full position . the second one offers full range from stopped to slow just above the charge point .
Best regards

GADGET

Thank you Albert, I just opened an old hard drive that I have and will try using that magnet. It is very small in the shape of a boomerang.

Fausto.

[Pirate88179]

Abbarue:

Thanks for that link.  It looks very interesting to me.  I believe I have all of the components needed to give it a try.  I bookmarked it for later use.

Bill

[plengo]

for desperation and happiness and before the reality drops in I will say here: I DID IT. EUREKA!!!!!!!!!!

I simplified the circuit to be exactly like gadegtmall with one Sk3606 on the positive of the battery and another one on the collector of the transistor. No extra parts anywhere. Transistor MJE3055T and 1uf cap at the base of the transistor. I am using only a small hard-drive magnet (it has the shape of a boomerang and has a metal plate glue to it - a shield?). I put the magnet as per gadegtmall advice, 1/4 of the fan surface only. I tried a few places until the voltage stopped dropping.

It has been running for the last 4 hours with no absolute change in voltage, except that it seams that it is going up but definitely not going down. I already recorded two short videos to document the phenomena and will create more as the night progresses. Some pictures of the magnet on the fan is here.

I will also try later another video where I will show the exact same setup where it will NOT WORK but this time I will use another fan and not touch the fan with the magnet positioned correctly. This way I will be able to show how the battery goes down in voltage so I can show "how I know" that it is working. Make any sence?

I am so frustated with my previous success and total failure right after that sometimes I start thinking that I never had a success to start with, but no I do think now that I did it before and I am doing right now.

Fausto.

[gadgetmall]

for desperation and happiness and before the reality drops in I will say here: I DID IT. EUREKA!!!!!!!!!!

I simplified the circuit to be exactly like gadegtmall with one Sk3606 on the positive of the battery and another one on the collector of the transistor. No extra parts anywhere. Transistor MJE3055T and 1uf cap at the base of the transistor. I am using only a small hard-drive magnet (it has the shape of a boomerang and has a metal plate glue to it - a shield?). I put the magnet as per gadegtmall advice, 1/4 of the fan surface only. I tried a few places until the voltage stopped dropping.

It has been running for the last 4 hours with no absolute change in voltage, except that it seams that it is going up but definitely not going down. I already recorded two short videos to document the phenomena and will create more as the night progresses. Some pictures of the magnet on the fan is here.

I will also try later another video where I will show the exact same setup where it will NOT WORK but this time I will use another fan and not touch the fan with the magnet positioned correctly. This way I will be able to show how the battery goes down in voltage so I can show "how I know" that it is working. Make any sence?

I am so frustated with my previous success and total failure right after that sometimes I start thinking that I never had a success to start with, but no I do think now that I did it before and I am doing right now.

Fausto.

Good going Fasto . you know that magnet will come off of that shield But if its working for you let it rip .. I remove those magnets Buy sticking it to an iron beam with the shield sticking up above the beam and strike the shield opposite the magnet with a hammer. the magnet stays stuck to the beam   ,then it is slip off . they are very powerful as you see. if you do that save that shield . Its mu metal .

Nice .

Al