Electrolizing Q & A

[CrazyEwok]

I have some things that i would like clarified if i can...

There seems to be a stigmata of only needing 2v per plate in a cell?!? is there a reason for this or has someone on their own cell come to this conclusion and its now a blanket policy?

Heat in a cell can be directly connected to amps??? (i thought it would be Watts/Joules but i keep hearing that it is amps)

Water by itself is bad but with an electrolyte it becomes workable. Now i suppose this has to do with its conductive properties but how bad is it? can we up the potential to compensate?

Steam is easier to break the bonds? if so then is their much work on this sort of convertion?

There are many more but don't want to flood people. I could build test and run and i proberly will but if many people work together then we can save time in the long run.

[TheNOP]

Farraday's laws

2.08 volts and no more then .25 watts per square inch.
with higher then those values you will get steam and steam is worst then water, electrolyte or not.


to put it simply at higher then .25 watts per square inch you got a boiller.

note that, in real life, the production rate is not high at 2.08 volts.
the more volts you will use, the less you generator will be efficient.

[CrazyEwok]

FARADAYS LAW... Ahhh ok so the voltage limit is bassed on a per electrode or bassed on the distance? and does this take into the acocunt of electrolyzers? hmmm i did not know Faraday worked in depth with electrolysis... hmmm does is this calculation done on an over time basis or is a per/micron relation? as electricity is the flow of electron is there a time limit on this or are we talking as in 1 hour? which from memory is how long it takes an amp to circulate... i was on the understanding that the voltage was a requirement on the basis of distance of contact... in other words higher voltages are required to cover larger electrode distances... this can be changed by enriching the connectivity of the water with and electrolyte which would lower the required voltage... but hmmm Geezer law huh thanks for clearing that up

[Koen1]

Well I also have a question...

I'm looking for a good indication of the volume of water electrolysed per second (or minute),
based on a specific electrolysis setup and given input.
So far people who have given me info (thanks guys) all seem to have different setups that
vary in dimensions of the electrodes as well as the container, they vary in exact energy feed,
and they vary in the volume that is electrolysed.

Now what I have is the desired volume of water that we want to electrolyse per second;
what I want to figure out is the ideal setup, or the one closest to it, that will do so.
I had reasoned that simply increasing the total electrode surface should increase
the amount of water electrolysed so it was simply a matter of increasing suface
untill we hit that figure, and the total energy needed to produce the H2 and O2 gas
would be directly related to the volume of water, the surface area, and the voltage.
But from the various replies I got from people it seems there are other variables
I have to keep in mind here too, as it seems that different setups produce equal
amounts of gas at varying energy levels...

Can someone offer any help or usefull info here? Thanks!

regards,
Koen

[TheNOP]

stick with Faraday's_laws
for now.
it sure work for me.

volume of water always goes in pair with the surface area of the electrodes.

the amount of gas is dependent of various factors.
mainly: cell configuration, amps, volts and surface area of the electrodes.

you could build a cell with 2 one inch by one inch plates, feed them 110 volts 15 amps and get a lots of gas produce.
the problem is most of the gas will be steam.

you could build a cell with 2 ten inch by ten inch plates, feed them 2.1 volts 1 amps
and get the same production with a 2 twenty inch by twenty inch plates at same volts/amps.

you could build a cell with 2 ten inch by ten inch plates, feed them 3 volts 1 amps and get about same production as with 2.1 volts 1 amps, except that the cell will be less efficient according to Faraday's law


at present time, i never had any luck with low current setups producing tremendous amount of hho.
and it seem to be the case for everyone in this forum.
but attempt are being done.