I've seen the future.

[christo4_99]

The U.S. is supposedly the benchmark by which a large portion of the rest of the world measures it's success or failure.Well then,given the state of our economy and the disharmony of our people there is a message here somewhere...something distinct and unmistakable.The message is:the suppression and enslavement of any people will inevitably affect all people.We tend to see the people who our jobs have been outsourced to as our enemies.But it is not so.They are just desperate people who want to live,feed their families by any means that they can.The corporation that outsources such jobs esteems itself a savior of these repressed and desperate people who would have little opportunity otherwise...or,I'm sure,some of them see the truth.If a country,for example,India can bring to it's people the prosperity and freedom which Americans enjoy,then how long will it take for them to suffer at the hands of the same corporations which gave them these fruits in the first place?My message to the world is:Any great country must learn to take care of it's own first,second to promote the value of all human life.What is our counter to this global agenda that we hear about and can see manifesting itself?Enemies are manufactured in this world,just like everything else.If it is not us,the American people who are going to recognise these things well then tell me,who?

[jadaro2600]

"promoting the value of human life" is just as connotative an idea as "necessary and Proper", "legitimate" and "probable cause".

It seems as though prosperity will always ride on the backs of the poor.  It's yin and yang - otherwise it's socialism.

learning to "promoting the value of human life" may mean doing a great deal of killing in the eyes of  "necessary and Proper", "legitimate" and "probable cause".

...as we have seen in every war since there was a word for war.

[christo4_99]

i'm not talking about socialism or yin and yang buddy...i'm talking about we are the best thing going and if we go down then what does anyone have to look forward to...why is everyone so down on socialism anyway?you were born on a planet that your ancestors killed and ran and did whatever they could to survive so your ass could stink up my post with your plagerized view,kinda like you actually said something.Sorry to sound hostile but i'm sick of these guys who just go around basically sticking some kind of contradiction into every post that they can...trying to sound like they are well informed.What i am saying is change or game over.you wanna point your little finger and say "socialism,socialism...look daddy socialism!"

[jadaro2600]

i'm not talking about socialism or yin and yang buddy...i'm talking about we are the best thing going and if we go down then what does anyone have to look forward to...why is everyone so down on socialism anyway?you were born on a planet that your ancestors killed and ran and did whatever they could to survive so your ass could stink up my post with your plagerized view,kinda like you actually said something.Sorry to sound hostile but i'm sick of these guys who just go around basically sticking some kind of contradiction into every post that they can...trying to sound like they are well informed.What i am saying is change or game over.you wanna point your little finger and say "socialism,socialism...look daddy socialism!"

People hate socialism because of how it's been implemented in the past. When and if we go down; if we go down as a nation, the people still remain, it's the inevitable suffering that takes place in the vacuum that most people seem to worry about.  People have done socialistic things since the beginning of time.

..and YOU, accuse me of having a plagiarized view is simply hilarious!  I don't mean to be a cynic here on your heart-felt thread, but your view is shared by many people, perhaps even me; thus it is YOUR view that is plagiarized, not mine.  It's so generic, in fact, that Jane Goodall herself might testify on the empathy of gorillas to sharing views of a similar social nature.  Having posted simplicity in response to simplicity isn't a flame, it's almost a knee-jerk reaction to the fabric of blandness itself.

Maybe you have seen the future. You say, "My message to the world is:Any great country must learn to take care of it's own first,second to promote the value of all human life" ..which as a patriot makes you look selfish, and as a person makes you look humanitarian.  Contradictions at best; these ideas obviously, by this you mean, that over time, one should pay one's self first and then worry about the rest of the world.  Well, if we are the benchmark? ...then we're doomed to be sat on as if we were a bench.  If we learn to consider ourselves before others we get into a chicken or egg discussion.

You have a thought about seeing the future and it's stating the obvious: you've simply pointed out the flaw rather than the solution.

If we act according to the humanitarian agenda, then there are rationally no nations and politics becomes a roadblock to doing what is ultimately best.  I don't think you've seen the future, I think you've witnessed the present.  Perhaps your idea of what a nation is is infact what's caused your vision, the fact that there is an obvious difference between you and your neighbor, and it's a measurable one; meaning that there's less on one side than the other.  By yin and yang, given yang the larger or more empowered would take your point of view, while yin would take mine.  Be default, however, yin and yang are equal; and in our case, yin wishes to be more like yang - in a fixed area, yang has to give something up.

I don't believe in fixed areas when it comes to these principles; I choose to believe in the humanitarian aspect of the whole.

I won't bother to argue with you about whether or not outsourcing hurts humanity or not - it arguably does more than create and destroy jobs - it could lead to manufacturing in places where there are less than favorable environmental protection policies ( or maybe those same policies drove the jobs away in the first place ) ..there are people with doctorates that could write books for decades about all of that.

I wouldn't waste my time tyeing this if I didn't feel there was some connection between my view and your vision.  That's why I post here.  And you're right, there usually is some half-wit nut that will boom in with a contradiction.  If you read into some of these, they're corrective, if you read into the whole, then they may be coercive to reform an idea.

The fact of the matter is, because I posted a long entry, a great deal of people won't even bother to read it..and because it hasn't got pictures - even fewer.  And because it's in a thread  with a claim to having seen the future - even less.  You still have my attention though - but the patriot in me needs to sleep; 

[christo4_99]

First of all the title is just a tug.Second,what I'm saying,since you seem to have missed it is that since the U.S. is a model to the rest of the world any country(such as India)who uses our model will eventually succumb  to the same end.My logic is that if we promote high standards of living for all the people on the earth there will be nobody for the corporations to exploit.Outsourcing of jobs is only beneficial if there is a high profit margin resulting from substandard living conditions aka slave labor.Isn't it remarkable that those who want the least in this world are often those who are kept from even the little that they want,like providing for their family.The predator entity will always go for the weak.We must address this imbalance or it will be the end of us.