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Newsflash: Overunity is impossible

Started by newsflash, January 30, 2009, 08:17:48 PM

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The Observer

I have news for you New's Flash.

If you have access to two guitars (1 Electric --- 1 Acoustic), I will prove over-unity is possible.
That is, more energy is output than put in.

Step one... Strum the E string (lowest string) on the Electric Guitar (the guitar is not hooked up to an amplifier, by the way).

Step two... Note it's volume which is directly related to the energy present.
                         That is the amplitude of a wave is directly related to the energy vibration of the string.

Step three... Strum the E String on the acoustic.

Step four.... Note the volume again.

Step five...  Louder ?   
                         I think so. By 100's of times in fact !

Step six... Realize that there is more energy output than without the resonating chamber of the Acoustic.

If you are going to make a statement such as you have... please try to explain resonance !
                          I would greatly enjoy reading your explanation.

Have a great day,

The Observer

P.S.  Extra credit.... do the same experiment with a trumpet, trombone or tuba.
               That is, case 1 would be the volume from only the mouthpiece,
                              case 2 would be the volume from the mouthpiece and the horn when they are connected.

          I'm pretty sure I could blast your ears out in case 2.
                  What do you think?

allcanadian

@Charlie_V
QuoteI find it hard to be a skeptic when there is so much evidence that an ordering mechanism does exist.  Its only a matter of time till we find it.

"A fish cannot comprehend the existence of water. He is too deeply immersed in it."
Sir Oliver Lodge
This ordering mechanism you seek should be obvious as you are a part of it-- Life
A tree takes randomly disspersed gasses, random chemicals in the ground and disspersed water and orders them into the structure we call a tree. Suns and stars vaporize matter and this matter radiates to the gravitational fields of planets where it is organized into form and substance. If you start looking I do not believe you will find one instance where chaos is not balanced by an opposite and equal force which organizes chaos into form. What few can concieve is the time frame in which this process occurs because it could amount to nanoseconds or it could be billions of years. If matter is ejected from suns and our universe is full of astronomical bodies and these bodies have gravitational fields which attract matter then it should be obvious that at some point in time this ejected matter must gravitate to something and in doing so it is organized into structure. Another example is light, if you can "see" the light from a star hundreds of light years away then this light must have propagated through every space inbetween you and the star, this light must also have radiated in every direction from the star for hundreds of light years. Therefore can we not say all space we know of must contain "light", we can call this light radiant matter or energy but the fact remains that it has travelled through space and gravitated to our planet producing life.

@All
On the subject of overunity, first we must understand what "unity" is before we can concieve that something could exceed it. What is unity?, If unity was considered to be all energy and structure within the confines of any given space then it would seem you have concluded that this space can have no interaction with everything else that surrounds it. Does this sound logical?--- that you could isolate a known area of space and everything it contains from everything else in the universe?. As well if unity is considered as all energy that is present and available for use in a defined space then how can you get more from something you have already defined as isolated. Maybe I am simple-minded but the error would seem to be in the fact that some people believe you can completely isolate one area of space from another, this would constitute blocking the motion of all known and unknown forms of energy, blocking all motion below the subatomic level across an imaginary boundary you have defined. I believe it is much more realistic to think that energy will always propagate from one place to another based on the conditions present irregardless of what we want or believe.
Regards
AC
Knowledge without Use and Expression is a vain thing, bringing no good to its possessor, or to the race.

newsflash

Quote from: The Observer on January 31, 2009, 12:08:30 PM
If you have access to two guitars (1 Electric --- 1 Acoustic), I will prove over-unity is possible.
That is, more energy is output than put in

You are comparing two different guitars, set up differently. Just because one guitar is louder than the other does not make it overunity... lol

Quote from: allcanadianOn the subject of overunity, first we must understand what "unity" is

Overunity means you're getting more out than you put in (impossible). Unity would be getting the same amount back (also impossible, since heat is always lost. A system can never be 100% efficient). Underunity is getting less out than you put in (always happens, since no system is 100% efficient). It's very simple, and I'm surprised you're on this site with 600+ posts without even being able to clearly define overunity.

Tempest

Quote from: newsflash on January 31, 2009, 11:46:02 AM
A magnet does not store power, i.e., what you would need to build some kind of free energy device.

A magnet uses force.

I still have to ask you how a magnet works. I will not be so bold as to say I do. And I know that there are magnetic forces that can make electricity when you do work to a magnet. Ex. a generator. But where do those forces come from?  Can those forces be manipulated to CONVERT energy for the background radiation? And if some young bright lad or lady that can come up with one, then more power to them. You are saying that we already know all there is to know about magnets. I find that cocky. And ignorant.

By the way an electro magnet does store energy.

newsflash

Quote from: Tempest on January 31, 2009, 12:27:05 PM
But where do those forces come from? 

www.advancedphysics.org/forum/showthread.php?t=4927