Newsflash: Overunity is impossible

[ramset]

News

ENERGY FROM WATER ?

You smokin something?

     Chet

PS
How often do you change the heating element in YOUR water heater

[The Observer]

Hello News,

If you haven't seriously considered the dynamics of resonance, it can be hard understand that energy gets stored in the system.
  In this case, it's the air in the hollow body of an acoustic guitar.

An easy way to comprehend this is a swing.

Only.... I MEAN ONLY.... I SAID ONLY when the swing gets a small push at the exact... I MEAN EXACT... I SAID EXACT right frequency,
   does it's swing amplitude grow.

99.9999999 % of all other frequencies result in little or no energy stored in the system (the swing).
    This is the reason for your and conventional science's skepticism when it comes to more energy out than in.
         
So to sum up (pun intended) the swing stores the energy of each push in it's system.

The same thing happens with the air particles in the Hollow Body of an Acoustic Guitar.
It does not happen with the solid body of an Electric Guitar.

Why?.... Shape and Form can amplify specific frequencies.

Have you ever heard of the Q factor in Resonant Systems?

              Q = 2*pi*(energy stored/energy dissipated per cycle)

A low Q system would be ringing a bell with your fingers holding the bell...it will not ring long.
A high Q system would be ringing the bell without fingers... it will ring a long time.

The point is.... ENERGY IS STORED IN THE SYSTEM when resonating.

            Please acknowledge that you can now see that.

I do appreciate your response and thank you again for stirring people's minds.

Sincerely,

                  The Observer

P.S. A fun way to think about the swing is this,

            I could tap my finger on your head for a minute, and you would say "that doesn't hurt... no harm was done to me."
   
             I could tap my finger with SAME ENERGY mind you, on a swing.
                  I guess I need to say the the frequency of the tapping is the same as the natural frequency of the swing.

             After 1 minute of pushing to a higher and higher amplitude, You stick your head in the path of the swing at its lowest point.

             If you are still conscious, you would say  "that hurts and I now have a bump on my head".

Why?  Because the SWING STORED THE ENERGY of each tap... and let you have it's sum when your head was inserted into it's path.

I know this example sounds mean.
I am only illustrating the point in a way that cannot be argued with and is a bit funny at the same time,
                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                                                                         so please don't take it personally. ;o)

[Tempest]

So it sound like to me that this is all a misunderstanding of words. You are in fact right, there is no such thing as over unity, or under unity.

There are systems with a COP above 100%. Look at an air conditioning cycle. Systems with a COP of 700% have been designed. 

But are you going to go as far as to say that we can't get power from an unknown source, say zero point, dark energy or what ever there are calling these days and convert it into a usable form.

I truly don’t believe that you are going to get energy out of nothing. But I am not going to say I understand everything either.

[sushimoto]

<SNIP
OVERUNITY IS IMPOSSIBLE. End of story. <SNAP>

THE EARTH IS FLAT. Period.

huhhh. damn. I have set my time machine to the wrong century.

In a hundred years, humankind will (re)name OverUnity as "COMMON PHYSICS".

[nickle989]

How hard is this concept for you people to grasp? All energy has a source, and the energy is simply transferred from one source to another. Nothing is ever being created or destroyed

and Conservation of Energy ...

Although there is merit to both statements they only apply to 3D dimension ... it does not apply quantumly .. if it did the Universe would not expand as it does ...

for the Conservation of Energy to hold its ground ... nothing would exist except when the initial energy surge was first introduced.  Something had to create the elements even hydrogen which is a main building block.  We just lack the knowledge so far to be able achieve overunity.  We can although achieve unity but what energy we need in form of mechanical power or some other power.  Cold fusion does provide somewhat of what we may call overyunity as there is no heat as a by-product.  MIT has proven this.