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HydroMeyers Vic

Started by Spewing, January 31, 2009, 03:02:14 AM

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kinesisfilms

Quote from: Grumpy on February 11, 2009, 12:29:47 AM


OK so Meyer uses pulses instead of DC, so that replaces the gap, but then we look at the overdriven waveform on Ritchie's page and see the Meyer stepped charge - wah-lah!   Except it does not rise to infinity but only to 2x input.


grumpy what do you mean he uses pulses instead of DC.....he uses PULSED DC......

birds of a feather flock together buzz and grumpy are fools ......and to be honest at this point i would rather roll with dankie the least of the idiots...atleast he is on the right track in places......IONIZATIONX IS ACTUALLY DOING SOMETHING......the only people worth anything in the hydrogen field at this website are the spark plug guys.....bob krupa even knew what was under the white cap of the water injectors.....too bad you probably didn't listen to that interview.

stevie1001

Quote from: Grumpy on February 11, 2009, 12:29:47 AM
There is something wrong or missing from the VIC circuit. 

In the page that Ritchie Burnett (sp?) has on resonant DC charging - the voltage only goes to 2x input - which isn't necessarily a lot and the spark gap or a switch to dump the cap is "required".

The diode just get's rid of the q-crap, so WTF?

OK so Meyer uses pulses instead of DC, so that replaces the gap, but then we look at the overdriven waveform on Ritchie's page and see the Meyer stepped charge - wah-lah!   Except it does not rise to infinity but only to 2x input.

Don't try to tell me he was using displacement current or scalar waves either - I ain't buyin' it.
I'll shoot you an email, Buzz, we won't be needing the damn VIC anymore.

Grumpy,

Just a little mind set:

The Richy pages are showing what Meyer was telling.
Stan found a way to get HV across a deadshort condition of his tubes.
If you look at the DC resonance circuit of Burnett, you see the resonance coil.
The property's of such a coil is that the currentflow cannot change quickly.
So, if you use a rotaryswitch to connect a tubeset to that circuit, you can hit HV to it, without pulling amps, because the resonance choke cannot change state quickly.

br
Steve
www.ionizationx.com

Grumpy

Quote from: TheBuzz on February 11, 2009, 08:33:14 AM
Stevie, that does not make sense. The process is far more complicated than a high voltage transformer or resonance. It is a little of both with some switching and a funky bifilar coil in between.

You are right that an inductor is not going to allow a reversal of DC current but in order to charge an inductor we need a bunch of current. If the inductor is resonant then current transfer is minimal since it is reversing when it resonates. That supplies the RF aspect of Meyer and at every step of the way, even in his original tube cell, there was a low frequency RF.

I think I have managed to put some stuff together in the last few hours regarding that bifilar coil.

I feel that bifilar coil and the switching have more to do with Meyer's early work than many people realize who are so focused on with the tube cells. His last incarnation used high voltage at high frequency. As his technology evolved, the frequency went up and he relied less on electrolysis.

One of the reasons that people argue is that Meyer tried it all. They look at early process and try and apply it to a later and completely different process. An open mind is everything to working this one out.

Another reason is that people simply don't understand the basics. Grumpy and I have been comparing notes and we have figured out far more than people realize. It doesn't mean we are smarter than others, we just put a lot of time and thought into it. We don't share much because what you just saw the dependtard do.

What Meyer was doing at every step of the way appears to be related to his EISER technology and that technology is being deployed on very large scale power generation projects presently. As the frequency and pressure in the injector went up, Meyer needed less and less hydrogen until he needed none.

Whether it will ever make it into our cars is another story. I doubt it, they realize they have to stop burning coal due to the environmental impact but gas leaves a smaller impact.

I just ignore them now.

It is funny to see what they respond with when they think they know what I'm talking about, or when I pose a question.  Posing a question does not imply that I do not have the answer, or even that I need one.  I'll bet they have not seen that video or how complex Meyer's system realy was.

Do not speak of the explosion or its details here, but that is the answer.  Reproducing that and controlling it is the new problem.

Side note: Would be fun to just use a capacitor discharge to drive a piston.
It is the men of insight and the men of unobstructed vision of every generation who are able to lead us through the quagmire of a in-a-rut thinking. It is the men of imagination who are able to see relationships which escape the casual observer. It remains for the men of intuition to seek answers while others avoid even the question.
                                                                                                                                    -Frank Edwards

Grumpy

HEY BUZZ,

Check yer mail.  The new and improved VIC is something to behold.  Tha doc is a jewel.

Now compare the cards to the shitload of "cards" on the dash of Meyer's buggy - bingo!

No stinkin' iron wire, no stinkin' bullshit.

See the vacuum pump? bada bing bada boom!

See the high pressure tank?  Cha-Ching!

See the impedence matching crap?  Yeah Baby!

Skip to page 3 - there lays out the entire process.
It is the men of insight and the men of unobstructed vision of every generation who are able to lead us through the quagmire of a in-a-rut thinking. It is the men of imagination who are able to see relationships which escape the casual observer. It remains for the men of intuition to seek answers while others avoid even the question.
                                                                                                                                    -Frank Edwards

ramset

Grumpy

Cha ching, bada bing, bada boom !!

You sound like your from my neck of the woods

N.Y.C .

   Chet



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