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HydroMeyers Vic

Started by Spewing, January 31, 2009, 03:02:14 AM

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dutchy1966

Quote from: Grumpy on February 05, 2009, 02:16:48 PM
when you increase the frequency, double it for example, you decrease the wavelength and the pulse is shorter

Stan Meyer tech brief: allowing the formation of an gated pulse- frequency pulse-train (64a/64b - T3 - 64a/64b) when pulse off-time (T3) is greater than time-period (T2)

What he is saying is that T3 (gating) HAS to be larger than T2 (pulse off). This because the last pulse will be doubled and "eat" time away from T3.
Normally the gating pulse will have a 50% duty cycle. Because of the above it will probaly be more like 60%/40%
Therefore when you want to raise the pulsing frequency you will get more pulses before the gating happens and my guess is that the gating frequency should be relative to the pulsing frequency.
Honestly I do not see any need to change the frequency very much once resonance is established. Only finetuning is necessary to stay in resonance.

Grumpy

Quote from: dutchy1966 on February 05, 2009, 02:54:54 PM
Stan Meyer tech brief: allowing the formation of an gated pulse- frequency pulse-train (64a/64b - T3 - 64a/64b) when pulse off-time (T3) is greater than time-period (T2)

What he is saying is that T3 (gating) HAS to be larger than T2 (pulse off). This because the last pulse will be doubled and "eat" time away from T3.
Normally the gating pulse will have a 50% duty cycle. Because of the above it will probaly be more like 60%/40%
Therefore when you want to raise the pulsing frequency you will get more pulses before the gating happens and my guess is that the gating frequency should be relative to the pulsing frequency.
Honestly I do not see any need to change the frequency very much once resonance is established. Only finetuning is necessary to stay in resonance.

Build something similar and you will see that the output pulse is merged steps and not actual pulses, then there is that little problem with getting rid if that charge in the cell that Meyer never really bothers to discuss...it will build up until something gives if it is not dissipated. 

Of course I never build anything, never show fancy YouTube videos, show very few photos or even images.  I'm just generally full of shit.  All three of my benches look like a bomb went off on them, but that is just for show. Thats why everything I'm saying checks out with a little effort to find it. 

You really can get 20kv or 40kv with very little input - just like a taser.  See, pulses do come out of the transformer but this is not what the cell sees.  Look at any power supply with a choke and a cap across it and see that the output is "smoothed" - also notice there is a load across the cap to get rid of the charge.  A simple VIC simulation on a free online sim program is all that is required to see the VIC from a whole new perspective.

I disagree about a shorted coil in the VIC since I doubt that Meyer was aware of this effect.

I know what happens in the cell and if I just blurt it out then no one else will learn anything.
It is the men of insight and the men of unobstructed vision of every generation who are able to lead us through the quagmire of a in-a-rut thinking. It is the men of imagination who are able to see relationships which escape the casual observer. It remains for the men of intuition to seek answers while others avoid even the question.
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dankie

Grumpy and theBuzz are just making stuff up  again ...

Grumpy

Quote from: dankie on February 05, 2009, 05:17:00 PM
Grumpy and theBuzz are just making stuff up , you dont know wtf you are talking about you blabbering fool , your rhetoric is baseless and cannot be understood , I dont understand what is your argument . Its like if you were some deaf sheep ,its impossible to communicate with you , quite probably because you are a disinfo agent ...

Stan explains the frequency doubling , he explains it very well and very clearly . You know nothing , everything you say is 100% made up lies ... TheBuzz you are so funny with your improvised coil we know where your improvising leads already DOOFY ...

No but seriously , you are pretty arrogant trying to contradict Stan himself on this VIC . Whos knows better here ? Stan Meyers or you guys ?


when you finally shut up, pull your head out of your ass and build something, you'll see that you are don't know shit.
It is the men of insight and the men of unobstructed vision of every generation who are able to lead us through the quagmire of a in-a-rut thinking. It is the men of imagination who are able to see relationships which escape the casual observer. It remains for the men of intuition to seek answers while others avoid even the question.
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ramset

Dankie

Please stop being so bitter

You make your claims

As Gutluc said show what you have!

And then you'll get some response

     Chet

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