STEORN is NOT DEAD!!! Go check their website NOW !!! WWW.STEORN.COM

wizardofmars · February 04, 2009, 04:12:31 PM

Quote from: jwk on February 04, 2009, 03:16:10 PM
Anyone reading this thread who is not entirely familiar with steorn and the claims they have made should take everything they do with a pinch of salt. Im not going to into all of it right now, it would take me all night.

Suffice to say they have lied and lied since day one, from 550bhp orbo's to pumps in Africa. Remember the jury ? notice it is not mentioned on the site ? Now they want 300 engineers and they want to sell them the test equipment as well.

JWK nailed it. Steorn is running out of money - their last financials shows they have spent all the cash they raised from investors.

This new initiative is an attempt to (a) find 300 suckers (aka engineers) who will pay for test gear (b) extend the runway for their existing suckers (aka existing investors) and (c) find new suckers (aka new investors) in the Middle East on their 'lecture tour'.

If you can't see this, then I've got a bridge to sell you.

PaulLowrance · February 04, 2009, 04:20:40 PM

Quote from: wizardofmars on February 04, 2009, 04:12:31 PM
JWK nailed it. Steorn is running out of money - their last financials shows they have spent all the cash they raised from investors.

This new initiative is an attempt to (a) find 300 suckers (aka engineers) who will pay for test gear (b) extend the runway for their existing suckers (aka existing investors) and (c) find new suckers (aka new investors) in the Middle East on their 'lecture tour'.

If you can't see this, then I've got a bridge to sell you.

That's the negative interpretation. I know for fact that mathematics using conventional physics shows that magnetic viscosity and a change in effective permeability in the design I've outlined would capture ambient thermal energy. Steorn's claim of magnetic viscosity among other descriptions is spot on.

Also, you *assume* that Steorn would not demonstrate the Orbo to the engineers. According to Sean, Steorn's already allowed *at least* three engineers to analyze the Orbo.

PL

wizardofmars · February 04, 2009, 04:22:46 PM

Quote from: PaulLowrance on February 04, 2009, 04:20:40 PM
That's the negative interpretation. I know for fact that mathematics using conventional physics shows that magnetic viscosity and a change in effective permeability in the design I've outlined would capture ambient thermal energy. Steorn's claim of magnetic viscosity among other descriptions is spot on.

And somehow thousands of engineers and scientists in hundreds of countries over many decades missed it. I guess that means you and the Steorn guys will be nominated for a Nobel prize once we see a working model.

PaulLowrance · February 04, 2009, 04:25:10 PM

Quote from: wizardofmars on February 04, 2009, 04:22:46 PM
And somehow thousands of engineers and scientists in hundreds of countries over many decades missed it.

Correct!

Quote from: wizardofmars on February 04, 2009, 04:22:46 PMI guess that means you and the Steorn guys will be nominated for a Nobel prize once we see a working model.

I don't need to prove my gift of thought. Been there, done that with a lot of engineers in my life. Most people don't know how to think well. One main problem is "skepticism." Skepticism is one of the biggest boobytraps ever devised!

PL

PaulLowrance · February 04, 2009, 04:28:04 PM

Quote from: wizardofmars on February 04, 2009, 04:22:46 PM
And somehow thousands of engineers and scientists in hundreds of countries over many decades missed it.

According to wizardofmars logic, or whatever his real name is, no person could ever discover something that conventional scientists missed! I can't even begin to express how ridiculously flawed such mentality is. Please take a visit down history lane.

PL