ENERGY AMPLIFICATION

[totoalas]

my caps are new ,  or my meter is fooling me   im using my old uni t   normal digital meter
will try again to test per gyula
its either fake or busted   70 renminbi  in china almost 500 pesos   tsk tsk tsk
my other idea is to pulse the two caps with flyswatter   circuit     cost only 35 hkd   each connected to relay
totoalas

[totoalas]

my caps are new ,  or my meter is fooling me   im using my old uni t   normal digital meter
will try again to test per gyula
its either fake or busted   70 renminbi  in china almost 500 pesos   tsk tsk tsk
my other idea is to pulse the two caps with flyswatter   circuit     cost only 35 hkd   each connected to relay
totoalas

k will buy the 470 uf    for comparison in the test

[Magluvin]

The first thing I would do.....

In Guyla's circuit, lets just look at 1 cycle of 1 cap being discharged into a primary, and that  field induces the 2 secondaries, sending some charge to the cap that was just discharged and to the other cap that is waiting to be discharged through the 2 secondaries and the bridge rectifiers.

So, I would try the 1 cycle experiment to see what results are in the 2 caps after the fist discharge.

In a normal transformer, lets say with 2 secondaries, loading the secondaries individually will produce a certain amount of similar power out. When both are being loaded, they can produce the same power out each but that would require more from the input. If we have a precharged cap, when we dump it into the primary, when 1 secondary is loaded, the current from the cap will flow at a particular decreasing amperage over a period of time. With 2 secondaries loaded, the amperage of the cap discharge will be double, but will happen in about half of the time period.

So I dont see charging even 1 cap via another of the same value, to the same(or more) voltage level, especially while delivering excess output to a load via additional secondaries.

There must be an alternative way to wind the transformer to get this result, or some external parts, that we dont know about yet. I would put the money on the transformer.

Sooo, a simple test vs building a whole multi winding transformer, would be to just wind a single secondary first on the bobbin, then a bifi primary with the 2 windings in series. Use a bridge on the secondary to charge another cap of the same value of the discharge cap, and see if the secondary cap is charged to or above the starting voltage of the discharge cap.

Now, if it does show that the secondary cap is above starting voltage, this would confirm everything.

Is it possible that a bifi primary acts differently than a standard winding in how it 'reacts' to loaded secondaries? I dunno.

When I get some time, I will try what I said. I dont even know what number or ratio of windings to start with. Will think on it a bit.

Mags

[crazycut06]

The first thing I would do.....

In Guyla's circuit, lets just look at 1 cycle of 1 cap being discharged into a primary, and that  field induces the 2 secondaries, sending some charge to the cap that was just discharged and to the other cap that is waiting to be discharged through the 2 secondaries and the bridge rectifiers.

So, I would try the 1 cycle experiment to see what results are in the 2 caps after the fist discharge.

In a normal transformer, lets say with 2 secondaries, loading the secondaries individually will produce a certain amount of similar power out. When both are being loaded, they can produce the same power out each but that would require more from the input. If we have a precharged cap, when we dump it into the primary, when 1 secondary is loaded, the current from the cap will flow at a particular decreasing amperage over a period of time. With 2 secondaries loaded, the amperage of the cap discharge will be double, but will happen in about half of the time period.

So I dont see charging even 1 cap via another of the same value, to the same(or more) voltage level, especially while delivering excess output to a load via additional secondaries.

There must be an alternative way to wind the transformer to get this result, or some external parts, that we dont know about yet. I would put the money on the transformer.

Sooo, a simple test vs building a whole multi winding transformer, would be to just wind a single secondary first on the bobbin, then a bifi primary with the 2 windings in series. Use a bridge on the secondary to charge another cap of the same value of the discharge cap, and see if the secondary cap is charged to or above the starting voltage of the discharge cap.

Now, if it does show that the secondary cap is above starting voltage, this would confirm everything.

Is it possible that a bifi primary acts differently than a standard winding in how it 'reacts' to loaded secondaries? I dunno.

When I get some time, I will try what I said. I dont even know what number or ratio of windings to start with. Will think on it a bit.

Mags

I remembered from the past post Tito shared a YT video, showing a coil wound multifilar and connected in series, he then compared it with a single wound coil, same coil diameter, as he test it the multifiar coil had much power than the single wound coil... Hmmm... Lots to try...

[totoalas]

another is the use of litz wire for wider surface area