ENERGY AMPLIFICATION

[slapper]

Oh    what is a CRON?     Teets?     I looked it up but not getting notable results in search.

Mags

I'm going with Copper iRON cause that's been my kick lately.

[Magluvin]

Hey Watts
Thats an interesting theory. But can a zener absorb that current? Well, common little ones anyway. Also would this constitute a disruptive discharge as compared to what we might believe we need? Or just an oscillator?
But i get your drift and its a good one. 

These are the ways we have to think. Tesla didnt just give it all away.  I imagine many have read and investigated his stuff for years, and probably only a handful in comparison saw the light.
So if we pick it apart, tip by tip, we will get there.

Zener zener zener,    what if the zener is just in an on state when the relay is on and the discharge ends at 3v, before it gets to zero?  But above there was a statement that the zener still conducts some below threshold. Will have to try and see.  From my experience with them, they are used to stop spikes above the zener voltage and as regulation devices, like after a resistor to hold the output at 5v steady.
But even if it were inline, would power be coming back through the zener? being that it is a diode from another mother.  =]

When I asked Teets about the zener /sparkgap, I had looked up some and there are some big ones.  And teets said they can take a lot of voltage, if that was correct in saying.   Riddles. He also said that he wasnt using zeners anymore but instead was using caps.  ?    Remember cap gap?  I had thought spike arestor. But I think they are 1 shot devices.   
But if we can get the zener working, Ill be good with that, and so will all of you, im sure. ;] Then we can try to graduate to cap gaps.

As Forest says, "something better"   well a relay is good as long as the sparks are directed away from the contacts.  I have put some circuits together that I could not fully eliminate all the sparking from the contacts and some that I could.   But Teets says 11 years, so. 

Now that I think about it, maybe in those contact burning circuits, it wasnt bemf crossing the contacts gaps, it could very well have been femf from the coil the switch was breaking contact from.  Like in my precharge circuit above that charges a cap to near twice the source.  hmm,  thats why my diodes in series with the contacts didnt help, because the current was allowed by the diode, cus it wasnt bemf.  I always wondered about that.  Now I know.

Still working on it

Mags

[e2matrix]

Holly Zenor Batman.

I know that when you put your volt meter on a battery, you will read the voltage, let's say 3 volts, but when you short the battery terminals, the volt meter will read zero volts. So if you put a 3v zenor in series with a coil and a 3v battery, that coil should pulse. The zenor sees the 3 volts, closes hence shorts the coil and the battery where the voltage falls to zero volts and the zenor opens and the cycle starts again. Could it be that simple.

Sounds easy enough to try if you have a Zener.   Looking .....

[Magluvin]

Hey Slaps
So wutcha doin with the crons?    I had seen some things using copper and iron wire, but never tried.
I understand that there is a delay in iron, and I remember the reverb boxes with the long iron springs for the delay line.

Mags

[Magluvin]

I tried the zener cap and source in the sim. I didnt get any oscillation. Source was 5v, and zener starts at 5.6. As I edited the zener, it just showed the current increasing as the zener voltage was lowered. I had a resistor inline also so that the zener would see a drop, cuz I dont think the source has a current limiter, thus resistor.

I was hoping for some crazy thing to happen. =]

Mags