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ENERGY AMPLIFICATION

Started by Tito L. Oracion, February 06, 2009, 01:45:08 AM

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weizisky

Quote from: gyulasun on October 16, 2013, 02:48:46 PM
Hi Weizisky,

It is good you agree but it would be better to read more answers instead of questions from you... No problems with questions of course, just I may not give a correct answer just because I do not know. So if you have info for instance where the energy could come from I would read you with even more interest.

By the way, Tesla wrote about electrical resonance in his paper "On light and other high frequency phenomena", see some excerpt text on it in the middle of a longer text at this link, just above Fig. 184:
http://www.tfcbooks.com/mall/more/313irw.htm

"The magnitude of the resonance effect depends, under otherwise equal conditions, on the quantity of electricity set in motion or on the strength of the current driven through the circuit.  But the circuit opposes the passage of the currents by reason of its impedance and therefore, to secure the best action it is necessary to reduce the impedance to a minimum.  It is impossible to overcome it entirely, but merely in part, for the ohmic resistance cannot be overcome.  But when the frequency of the impulses is very great, the flow of the current is practically determined by self-induction.  Now self-induction can be overcome by combining it with capacity.  If the relation between these is such, that at the frequency used they annul each other, that is, have such values as to satisfy the condition of resonance, and the greatest quantity of electricity is made to flow through the external circuit, then the best result is obtained.  It is simpler and safer to join the condenser in series with the self-induction.  It is clear that in such combinations there will be, for a given frequency, and considering only the fundamental vibration, values which will give the best result, with the condenser in shunt to the self-induction coil; of course more such values than with the condenser in series.  But practical conditions determine the selection.  In the latter case in performing the experiments one may take a small self-induction and a large capacity or a small capacity and a large self-induction, but the latter is preferable, because it is inconvenient to adjust a large capacity by small steps.  By taking a coil with a very large self-induction the critical capacity is reduced to a very small value, and the capacity of the coil itself may be sufficient.  It is easy, especially by observing certain artifices, to wind a coil through which the impedance will be reduced to the value of the ohmic resistance only; and for any coil there is, of course, a frequency at which the maximum current will be made to pass through the coil.  The observation of the relation between self-induction, capacity and frequency is becoming important in the operation of alternate current apparatus, such as transformers or motors, because by a judicious determination of the elements the employment of an expensive condenser becomes unnecessary.  Thus it is possible to pass through the coils of an alternating current motor under the normal working conditions the required current with a low E. M. F. and do away entirely with the false current, and the larger the motor, the easier such a plan becomes practicable; but it is necessary for this to employ currents of very high potential or high frequency."

This very last part: "...it is necessary for this to employ currents of very high potential or high frequency" may give answer to member forest on the question of HV or not HV...

And the above text from Tesla explains why he patented the bifilar series coil structure: he could increase the self capacitance of the coils, thus got rid of using separate, expensive capacitors and store more energy in that coil structure.

So I would like to read you take on the source of energy if you wish because I also think it is not the coil or capacitor etc. Resonance may be a canditate answer?  Tesla used resonance to reduce impedance to a minimum as per his above text but was his electrical resonance condition used only for cancelling coil and capacitor reactances, I wonder?
What did he mean on the best results he obtained:    ...If the relation between these is such, that at the frequency used they annul each other, that is, have such values as to satisfy the condition of resonance the greatest quantity of electricity is made to flow through the external circuit, then the best result is obtained.  What is meant by best results?
Common sense says: with relatively low emf you can drive higher current through a coil with which you connected a capacitor in series to defeat reactance of the coil, and leave only the wire resistance to oppose current.  What did he do with the stronger magnetic field? He surely coupled it to a secondary coil with high L value to transform up voltage to millions of volts.

And then how continue to have extra energy?  Or am I off track?

Greetings,  Gyula

Gyula,
good text. I believe you'v got most important keys from it!!! What is meant by best results? it is the moment when spark gap fires let high current pass, simply say you have 1 point in the waveform of second L , maybe you could have 3 chances, it 's up to what method be used.

Dave45

Iv been told there's no field running in the air around a coil then what is this



Dave45

Check this vid watch as he places a simple iron ring between the two terminals
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpkh7_Eyctw

could we make and open capacitor like this, a plate on each side of a toroid ring

Dave45