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ENERGY AMPLIFICATION

Started by Tito L. Oracion, February 06, 2009, 01:45:08 AM

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gyulasun

Quote from: lancaIV on October 20, 2013, 03:28:39 AM
Hello Gyula,nada para desculpar. Eu tenho percebido.Mas tambem que a morte faz parte da vida.
Mas aquando um vinho eu prefero um Moscatel da peninsula de Setubal.


Sobre o INPI eu vou tentar de falar com o Senhor Dr.Santos porque vai ser ele que eventualmente tem os papeis/documentos ou nos-em conjunto-vamos pedir o INPI por uma copia.( o processo judicial entre ENVEZ/Dr.Santos e o Jorge Ferreira esta ainda no tribunal) .

Hello Oliver,

Obrigado por tentar falar com o Dr. Santos nos papéis / ou uma cópia do INPI, e espero que o Sr Dr Santos vai estar com uma atitude positiva. 

Tudo de melhor,
Gyula


Magluvin

Quote from: Dave45 on October 20, 2013, 01:14:28 PM
Hey Mags
Its running about 20 khz drawing about 4.5 amps nothing special so far, I still want to dump it into a dual rail, Iv got the parts just need to assemble everything.
Iv got a scope and some analog meters on the way should be here next week, Im going to try and get it to run at the res freq of the coils, will be neat to see what happens if anything.

Thats a nice low freq for the windings I see. You have those caps stacked across the coil, and if you take some away, the freq climbs?  I think what we need to do is have most or all the capacitance 'within' the coil. Im thinking that the bifi coils work a bit differently than just a cap and coil lc. Its possible that your coil setup would be at very high freq(way beyond 20k) if you removed those caps and relied on the winding capacitance alone. I dont know if your circuit would operate at what ever those freq may be, but it would be interesting to see the difference if any. ;) Or use finer wire for the windings and more turns to increase the coils capacitance so it operates in the freq range that you are working with now.

In the Utkin papers, he shows oppositely wound coils facing each other and series connected in the middle. Its not clear if he used bifi for each opposing coil, but he does specify bifi in other parts of the paper. As I see it, the paper as a whole is a description of ingredients that are put together to make 1 device.  So it is possible that what Stupify says, as to the opposing coils are each bifi themselves and the Utkin paper needs more thought when reading. If people dont make that connection from the papers, then maybe they cant get good results because of trying to build with just single conductor windings. ??? ;) ;D

One thing that I find different between what Stupify describes and Utkin, is that from what I get from Stupify is that the 2 coils mag fields oppose(from what I understand) and Utkin shows the electrical field is opposed but mag field is not.

In the end, we have new avenues to try from each. Its possible that you may have to rewind 1 side of you coil the other direction and test. I like that big core. :o ;D   You buy that?

Reading my switching power supply design books, they recommend staying away from resonant freq of the inductors/transformers used and recommend switching to be at least 5 to 10 times lower than the SFR self resonant freq. Seems odd that we are trying to achieve things that disregard those published recommendations. :'( :-[ ;D The books only cover the subject in less than half a page.  But I find it interesting enough to 'see' what they didnt say.  One other thing was that the windings should be well insulated, with even some distance, from the core, as the core could increase parasitic capacitance and lower the SFR of the coil. I dont know if close winding to the core would affect a bifi winding, how it should work, negatively or positively. Lots of things to consider. If it is a multi layer winding directly on the core, the inside windings could have more capacitance than the outer layer, possibly affecting the bifi SFR, hopefully in a good way. ;D

Mags


stupify12

Quote from: Magluvin on October 20, 2013, 04:22:20 PM

In the Utkin papers, he shows oppositely wound coils facing each other and series connected in the middle. Its not clear if he used bifi for each opposing coil, but he does specify bifi in other parts of the paper. As I see it, the paper as a whole is a description of ingredients that are put together to make 1 device.  So it is possible that what Stupify says, as to the opposing coils are each bifi themselves and the Utkin paper needs more thought when reading. If people dont make that connection from the papers, then maybe they cant get good results because of trying to build with just single conductor windings. ??? ;) ;D

One thing that I find different between what Stupify describes and Utkin, is that from what I get from Stupify is that the 2 coils mag fields oppose(from what I understand) and Utkin shows the electrical field is opposed but mag field is not.

In the end, we have new avenues to try from each. Its possible that you may have to rewind 1 side of you coil the other direction and test. I like that big core. :o ;D   You buy that?

Mags

Mags and Dave.

Let me remind you to study and read the Tesla Patent Coil for Electro magnets. Look for the word neutralizing-those you will understand what I am talking about. The Vladimir Uttkin is a great paper, everything told there is correct but only the expert on this field of research could understand those being presented there. :P ::) :o

Look closely the Tesla Bifilar Pancake winding and how did Vladimir Uttkin describe it on a cylindrical form. Everything is related and the same, but it is difficult for the minds which directly study the advance machine of Tesla. For me it is a average concept and ideas, As I already master the Rotating Magnetic Field of Nikola Tesla. :o

Meow ;D ;D ;)

Magluvin

Quote from: stupify12 on October 20, 2013, 09:36:35 PM
Mags and Dave.

Let me remind you to study and read the Tesla Patent Coil for Electro magnets. Look for the word neutralizing-those you will understand what I am talking about. The Vladimir Uttkin is a great paper, everything told there is correct but only the expert on this field of research could understand those being presented there. :P ::) :o

Look closely the Tesla Bifilar Pancake winding and how did Vladimir Uttkin describe it on a cylindrical form. Everything is related and the same, but it is difficult for the minds which directly study the advance machine of Tesla. For me it is a average concept and ideas, As I already master the Rotating Magnetic Field of Nikola Tesla. :o

Meow ;D ;D ;)

Hey Meow. ;D

Yep, I know what he means by neutralize.  ;) I think I thought of the possibility of the neutralizing effects between mutual coils, back in this thread somewhere. But now you are reinforcing those thoughts.  ;)

Been going through all my stuff, cores, wire, etc. to come to a finalization of what to build and what with. Still working on it. ::) Daves core has me a bit intimidated. :o ;D   lol just kidding  I generally work small at first.

Yeah, I think I have the patent down pat.  So now is time to apply what we know here, thanks to having a bit of encouraging direction. ;)

Mags