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ENERGY AMPLIFICATION

Started by Tito L. Oracion, February 06, 2009, 01:45:08 AM

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Magluvin

Its not ou, but the function is there.    I just have to look up what zeners are out there and if they can handle the currents of the caps discharge. Im sure its a lot.     I will have to try it on a smaller scale with what I have, unless in teets setup, the zener has another function rather than being the spark gap directly.
We continue on....
Mags

Magluvin

After messing with the circuit, I see that when the cap gets charged, when the zener dumps, it is also pulling from the cap charging transformer, through the normal diode, and causing some serious input power issues.

I am not sure this is what we want.

Another reason I say this, Teets said in the latest tips,  coil caps diode zener and relay.  Well if the relay is the cap dumper then where does the zener go?  Is it just used to skim off of the top instead?  But then again, the zener has something to do with the spark gap portion, as teets claimed to me.

We have to think of something whacky.   

Im thinkin and Im a bit whacky!  ;]    I gota eat.

Magshungry

Tito L. Oracion

ok! ok! here is the yin and yang sample if you really want to use spark gap:

Use the increasing energy by making an electromagnet that use to push the inrush energy at the tip of extra coil going to the aluminum plate. in this sense, no matter how strong the spark is, it is being pushed by its energy itself.

The earth is rotating with the speed suitable for us to live isn't it?
now there is actually a reason why we should use just a relay. use it how nature works.

Forest sorry i lied a little to you ok.  :D

Every effect has a corresponding use ok, you place them where they are meant to be. that is where a good designer is born.

Now if your design is made correct then you have a lasting device ok!.

happy experimenting everyone, always be careful, use a lot of sense, especially the 6th sense of   
         balance.

mags, you always makes me laugh. ;D

oh boy i got to eat also, titshungry  ;D


The amplification presented by our fellow experimenters are not wrong, they were just not what tesla is saying, there is other way ok, it is rolling ice stone and the one that i say long time ago, the falling domino has the same meaning or effect.



otits  ;D

Magluvin

Well Glad to hear I can be funny.  =]

Ok boys, we have a new ingredient,  Aluminum plate     Man, this isnt going to get easier is it.

Ok hungrytits    I gota ask, and I know that the answer is going to be, well, just the way you always answer.

You say coil caps diodes  zener diode   Can you at minimum tell us how many of each would be required? Its confusing when you just say coil  and then extra coil, so that would imply 2, or more.   Not the values, but at least how many of each would be in the circuit.   Cuz like there could be 10 diodes in series, somewhere, and Im not asking where.  If we just at least had a component count, it would be of great assistance.  And now we have an aluminum plate. Not asking what for, but is it necessary.   Wut do ya say? Can we get this party started?  ;]

And for all

I did a bit of tuning, but I cannot say the out is totally more than the in. I put a cap on the primary of the input transformer to try and limit the input power while still getting quality output, and it helped reduce the amount of power getting from the input transformer to the output transformer.  Im not convinced that this is how its done.

But have a looky    The first scope is of the pulse gen directly to be sure of power consumed, and it shows the + and - power also.  Does that mean that the - power is power being input to it from bemf?  dunno, but the last 2 scopes are of the zener and the ouput load resistor. The zener seems to be consuming most of the output, but it plus the itty bitty resistor power look to be more than consumed input.

Mags and the 3kv zener    I have not even looked to see if they exist yet. Im afraid if they do. =]



forest

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on September 29, 2010, 09:19:35 PM
ok! ok! here is the yin and yang sample if you really want to use spark gap:

Use the increasing energy by making an electromagnet that use to push the inrush energy at the tip of extra coil going to the aluminum plate. in this sense, no matter how strong the spark is, it is being pushed by its energy itself.


The earth is rotating with the speed suitable for us to live isn't it?
now there is actually a reason why we should use just a relay. use it how nature works.
Rotating relay hmm ?

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Forest sorry i lied a little to you ok.  :D
but where :-\ ?

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Every effect has a corresponding use ok, you place them where they are meant to be. that is where a good designer is born.

Now if your design is made correct then you have a lasting device ok!.
do you mean self-runner?

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happy experimenting everyone, always be careful, use a lot of sense, especially the 6th sense of   
         balance.

mags, you always makes me laugh. ;D

oh boy i got to eat also, titshungry  ;D

;D

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The amplification presented by our fellow experimenters are not wrong, they were just not what tesla is saying, there is other way ok, it is rolling ice stone and the one that i say long time ago, the falling domino has the same meaning or effect.

If we have pure potential HV that would attract "dead" electrons from air for example.Not sure if this is correct interpretation but I think we could separate S-Flow from one circuit and spread it around from extra coil which would attract dead electrons or make them push each other in the metals

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otits  ;D