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ENERGY AMPLIFICATION

Started by Tito L. Oracion, February 06, 2009, 01:45:08 AM

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nelsonrochaa

Quote from: MarkE on November 25, 2014, 06:23:25 PM
Nelson, reliable data always tells the story.  90%, or maybe as much as 99% of the battle is getting reliable data.  Aaron has in the past been difficult because he resisted both explanation of obvious errors he was making and also to perform tests of his own to validate his beliefs a number of which TK proved were false.

Hi MarkE ,
I never say that work of Aron about this subject is 100% correct ! But what i try to say is that their work was important! Maybe Aron let himself get carried away, and could not understand some details, but can not say that his job was unsuccessful, because i learn with some details of their tests and from other people.
Even if Tim has proven to be right and in your personal dispute with Aaron , does not give the right to judge the purposes and intent of those who are interested in this type of study.What I saw happen was a bad advertisement for who is starting up in this forum.


Thanks


MarkE

Quote from: nelsonrochaa on November 26, 2014, 06:21:01 AM
Hi MarkE ,
I never say that work of Aron about this subject is 100% correct ! But what i try to say is that their work was important! Maybe Aron let himself get carried away, and could not understand some details, but can not say that his job was unsuccessful, because i learn with some details of their tests and from other people.
Even if Tim has proven to be right and in your personal dispute with Aaron , does not give the right to judge the purposes and intent of those who are interested in this type of study.What I saw happen was a bad advertisement for who is starting up in this forum.


Thanks
Nelson it is difficult for me to view Aaron's activities as research.  It is hard for me to find any factual contribution to knowledge made by Aaron. 

There are different folks with different skill levels in different areas.  And everyone makes mistakes sooner or later. The question is:  Do they look for mistakes and correct them when found?  With respect to the Ainslie claims Aaron fared very badly.  It's OK that he made some big mistakes. The problem was that he fought and fought and fought reality as initially gently pointed out by TK, and then with greater and greater force by TK.  I also agree with TK that there is something wrong with the idea of publishing three different books each purporting to teach the "complete secrets" of what is at its best a very complicated and large implementation of a lead acid battery desulphanator promoted by John Bedini, and at its worst are just false claims.

If you believe that you are learning something from Aaron, I would double check with other references.

MarkE

Quote from: nelsonrochaa on November 26, 2014, 06:05:23 AM
Hi Forest,
The only simple reason to use a 12v battery is because the car relay is 12v . How you  think i can use the 12v relay vibrate at 5kz with a 9v battery and maintain oscillation?If i want use 9v battery i have to find a 9v relay:) but for me it isn't important , because this piece of scrap (circuit) is only to study and observe.
Thanks




Im not worry about took negative comments :) because i learn with all information even failed tests.
That's not really correct.  If you look at the specifications for a 12V relay they will typically have minimum pull-in voltages of around 8V.  Car relays tend to have even lower pull-in voltages so that they will work with a nearly dead battery.

nelsonrochaa

Quote from: MarkE on November 26, 2014, 01:21:47 PM
Nelson it is difficult for me to view Aaron's activities as research.  It is hard for me to find any factual contribution to knowledge made by Aaron. 

There are different folks with different skill levels in different areas.  And everyone makes mistakes sooner or later. The question is:  Do they look for mistakes and correct them when found?  With respect to the Ainslie claims Aaron fared very badly.  It's OK that he made some big mistakes. The problem was that he fought and fought and fought reality as initially gently pointed out by TK, and then with greater and greater force by TK.  I also agree with TK that there is something wrong with the idea of publishing three different books each purporting to teach the "complete secrets" of what is at its best a very complicated and large implementation of a lead acid battery desulphanator promoted by John Bedini, and at its worst are just false claims.

If you believe that you are learning something from Aaron, I would double check with other references.

This should not be a local assessment judgments about people.
Only mentioned that some of the experiences that Aaron has published some videos about a particular subject  and  for me at least was advantageous. Never in question, the actions or purpose Aaron or anyone else. thats clear ?
I consider disrespectful making statements about people who are not here to defend these same charges.
I, like many people chose a path to follow.I learn even with mistakes of others, and not see it as a waste of time.
But everyone is different, and fortunately there is freedom, do not want to destroy the freedom of thinking of people.
The topic is Energy amplification right?
What we are discussing here?
If what show does not fit in the topic say! because it seems that I appear to bother some people with what I show in my rudimental tests.
For me will not be a problem to respect  opinion of people and I will remove me from this forum.

Thanks

Cap-Z-ro

Quote:

" There are different folks with different skill levels in different areas.  And everyone makes mistakes sooner or later. The question is:  Do they look for mistakes and correct them when found?  With respect to the Ainslie claims Aaron fared very badly.  It's OK that he made some big mistakes. The problem was that he fought and fought and fought reality as initially gently pointed out... "



I have to agree..for instance, I tried to point out the dangerous properties involved in the process of making stainless steel, as it relates to the human body.

But do you think that numbskull would listen ?

Not on your life...instead he went on like a common internet troll.

http://www.overunity.com/15125/let-the-speculation-begin/new/topicseen/#new


Words is chewy, and can be very hard to swallow.


Regards...