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ENERGY AMPLIFICATION

Started by Tito L. Oracion, February 06, 2009, 01:45:08 AM

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Magluvin

Quote from: WhatIsIt on June 10, 2020, 07:35:36 PM


Electricity is not water, but caps are containers.
From 1 liter of gas at 10 psi, you can get 2 liter at 5 psi of gas if the volume of containers are equal,
but you can not do it with water. Water can not be pressed.
Analogy of gas pressure and volumes is more closely to our capacitors and voltage analogy then water analogy.
Voltage is pressure which can press charges close to each other with increase of voltage.


Voltage is pressure. It is the pressure that causes current to flow, just like pressurized air, and just like the pressure measured at the bottom of a water container, the more water, increased water height, more pressure. it is an excellent way to teach electrical things in a way many without electrical experience can understand.
20ft tall water tank 2ft dia.  Connect a hose to the bottom of the tank.  release the nozzle to water your garden.  Would you not have more water flow with 20ft of water than say 5ft of water in the tank?

Mags

WhatIsIt

Yes, you are right.
I was wrong for the serial cap calculation.

You changed my mind.
Sorry for the trouble, you helped.

WhatIsIt

Quote from: Magluvin on June 10, 2020, 08:30:03 PM
Voltage is pressure. It is the pressure that causes current to flow, just like pressurized air, and just like the pressure measured at the bottom of a water container, the more water, increased water height, more pressure. it is an excellent way to teach electrical things in a way many without electrical experience can understand.
20ft tall water tank 2ft dia.  Connect a hose to the bottom of the tank.  release the nozzle to water your garden.  Would you not have more water flow with 20ft of water than say 5ft of water in the tank?

Mags

It will if you use gravity to assist.

Try that with water outside earth gravity field.
But you can compress gas in tanks even in space outside gravity influence.
You can not compress water without gas outside the gravity well of earth.

That is why I used gas analogy.

If the voltage is pressure and we use medium which can not be pressed then gas is more suitable,
because it can be pressed.

WhatIsIt

Thank you Mags for clearing the cap conundrum,
which is not conundrum at all,
It is just how parallel and serial connection behave.
There is nothing else to solve.
It is what it is.

Thanks.

P.S. Cap conundrum bothered me, and now it is easily explained.

lancaIV

#8574 :
But what if this " phantom pressure or phantom  force" can be recovered and used as capacitive coil circuit arrangement,displacement current : but "wattless power" !?


About linear and dynamic :

DE2733719 Chitta Mukherjee  "Electrical generator ..." https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=2&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19790215&CC=DE&NR=2733719A1&KC=A1#


Magnetic field strength H and magnetic flux density B related , force as BIL and the needed counterforce in VA !
When B=1  and Counter-B = 2     1/2V and 1/2A  = 1/4 VA or   25% VA counter-force

When B=1  and Counter-B = 3     1/3V and 1/3A  = 1/9 VA or   11,1%VA counter-force

When B=1  and Counter-B = 4     1/4V and 1/4A  =1/16VA or     6,25%VA counter-force

Push&pull lever effect



An other linear/dynamic example :

we see an one thousand watt and 1000 RPM nominal windgenerator his propeller rotating,

by low wind and 10 RPM generator shaft  :  10 RPM is the 1/100 part from 1000 RPM nominal
The electricity generation : 1000 W x (1/100)^3 =  0,001 W = 1/1000000 the nominal generator power output


little stronger wind : 100 RPM propeller generator shaft rotation ,
100 RPM the 1/10 part from 1000 RPM nominal
The electricity generation : 1000 W x (1/10)^3= 1 W = 1/1000 the nominal generator power output


Not only rotations,the internal torque gives (angular) moment=(angular)force !

Barometer,Hygrometer,Thermometer,Anemometer,Seismometer,DMM
The scale and the metric

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.meteorologyshop.eu%2Fmeteo-blog%2Fgrundlagen-der-windmesstechnik

from www.arestov.de ( old page)
Example: A wind turbine with a nominal 400 W (manufacturer's specification) generated at a wind force of approx. 20 m / sec. an output of 70 watts. After converting the generator to combined windings, the system delivered with a wind force of 5-6 m / sec. 140 watts. At 10-12 m / sec. were generated over 320 watts !

FIRST IMPROVEMENT
From 20 m/sec. = 70 W  Beaufort scale 9 to 10-12 m/sec. = 320 W Beaufort scale 6

The point to think and for experiments :
we have not only the diminuation from wind velocity spead

from 20 m/sec and 70 W output
to 12-10 m/ per sec and 70 W but to 320 W

First advantage : instead 20 m only 12 m/sec improvement wind factor 4,65
Second advantage: after first improvement not only 70 W output but 70 W x improvement factor = 320 W

20 m-sec /12 m-sec = 1,666 (1,666)^3 = 4,65 speed to force ratio-squared = 21,38 times improvement  = 1,66^6


David Yurth :
Induction Coil Coating Increases Generator Output by One-Third – Coating the induction coils of generators with a proprieta[/font]ry material increases their output by one-third using the same amount of fuel.

SECOND IMPROVEMENT
By steady Beaufort 6 condition steady nominal 400 W generation from " modified" 400 W nominal wind turbine

free energy to enforced and concentrated energy only one side/two axis/3 axis compressed chamber

Turbine concentrator
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=3&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19860911&CC=DE&NR=3607644A1&KC=A1#

THIRD IMPROVEMENT
By steady Beaufort 4 steady nominal 400 W generation

Possible improvement : less material or higher generator output
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=5&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20130314&CC=US&NR=2013062983A1&KC=A1#

with Linevich-Arestov,Kango Iida or Andreas Sumera rotative torque converter(speed amplifyier) down to Beaufort 2


this improvements are natural part from this "compressed (dry/humid)air wind turbines" :

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=1&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20140917&CC=CN&NR=104047814A&KC=A#


and the "Fanerator" : https://patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=9318

2.  The High Velocity Electric Fan (Blowing directly on the PMA
          Blades from a distance of only 8 inches)   

     transforming this in Beaufort scale  ?! Distance to propeller/rotor  ! Force in velocity/speed !