ENERGY AMPLIFICATION

[Magluvin]

I agree Sproc   As I am only just now taking big interest in it, even though I have known of its existence for a few months without really digging deep with it.

I would venture to say that the nail itself has some affect on the capacitance of the bifi windings, whether more or less.. Like Captret, there just may be a readable charge between the nail and either coil lead. Dunno yet.

Teets said Cross.  Agent Gates coil? 

Mags

[Magluvin]

Goat

Would have to see the circuit to consider how.  =]

Mags

[Goat]

Goat

Would have to see the circuit to consider how.  =]

Mags

@ Mags....thanks for looking in....

Excuse me for not specifying the circuit, it's a cheap 5$ Fujii camera gutted out with the battery running the circuit until the NE2 is pulsating, then I remove the battery and then the circuit sustains the NE2 in a pulsating mode until it runs out.

The circuit is readily available to anyone who purchases a disposable camera so I thought it'd be a good place to start.

Even after taking out the battery the NE2 keeps oscillating so I thought it'd be a good candidate for an amplification circuit if we tap into part of the circuit and feedback to source.  There's 300 VDC at the cap and there's another ? VAC if you place a probe from the Xenon bulb to ground of the battery.

I was hoping that with these high voltages available from the circuit after the input is disconnected that we could use this to have a regenerative feedback to source to keep it going.

Unfortunately I don't have a camera or video to show you what I'm talking about but if you get a Fujii disposable camera and gut it out and hook up the battery and short out the "On" button you will see the NE2 pulsating then if you take off the battery you will see the NE2 keep flashing so I thought that if we can feedback and/or amplify the output we could be onto something.

Regards,
Paul

[DimaWari]

This circuit?

[IWD]

Here is a vid my friend made a while back.  It is a quad fi coil. He shows the effects described.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbFqVh7GdGk

Mags

Well, I see I must write something. In the video is nothing extraordinary. Power(total energy in particular space) of the coil field can be build from lets say 90% of curent
(magnetic field) and 10% of voltage (electric field) or from lets say 30% of curent and 70% of voltage.Or any other combination.
If you apply lets say 100v over 100turn coil you will have 1v on 1turn and 100turn which enclose almost same particular space with same current each.
If you apply 100v over 1000turns coil you will have 0,1v over each turn and 1000 turns with same curent in particular space.
Specialy with DC current, after coil saturation there will be almost zero voltage on each turn. But for price of increasing resistance by lets say 1-2ohms, will increase ways in particular space where current flow by lets say 50turn which is still very good business.
And if you care about affecting permanent magnet which have big magnetic field, but almost no electric field. Then most efective(in care of energy consumption) way is to create a magnetic field without electric field(almost). Because you do not need it in that case. Got it?
Of course if you want to create electromagnet and you have AC then if you create a bifilar winding in terms of same number of turns as normal coil have, then you can put more energy in that coil and thus that, the electromagnet will be stronger, but takes the energy from source.