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Overunity Machines Forum



ENERGY AMPLIFICATION

Started by Tito L. Oracion, February 06, 2009, 01:45:08 AM

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Cadman

Quote from: gyulasun on May 06, 2014, 02:46:41 PM
Hi Cadman,

What you describe makes sense but how would you solve energy extraction from the third or fourth etc LC tank or stage you kick from the previous tank or stage?  Because the loads transform into each tank circuit as a "loss resistance", effectively reducing the oscillating energy swing in that tank, right?  IT is okay that you start from a relatively low level and gradually increase it through the stages but common sense has it: the load (or loads) limit you in the end, no?  I may be wrong here of course.

EDIT: if you could draw a schematic on a possible circuit (you envisioned in your above post) with a load connected, that would be great.   8)   (For switches, just use switch symbols,)

Gyula
Hi Gyula,

This is still very much a mind exercise at the moment and this is how it looks to me;
In my thinking the transformation of the emf into high voltage is not the main goal. Voltage is limited by the diodes, right?

What we want is the frequency on the HF secondary. So using the circuit you modified, lay out 5 of those in a row with a HF secondary feeding the next lower frequency transformer in the row. Starting at the first stage say we have a low frequency transformer cycling at 60 cps and our first cap is firing 2 times per cycle at it's own frequency of one million cps. Each cap discharge giving four cycles before depleting. That is not a million cycles, it's 480.
So the next stage bumps 480 cps to 3,840 cps, then 30720, 245760, then finally 1,966,080 cps. So five stages to get a truly HF output. Now we are at the point where an insignificant charge taken at the rate of 1,966,080 cps can provide some serious watts.

See, we don't really magnify the energy, we can't create it from nothing, but we can accelerate it and get more work from it even though we spend some of it during the acceleration.

One  0.018 mf cap with 20000 volts discharging at a rate of 2 million cycles per second, using 8 cycles to discharge, will give about 900 kilowatts if that discharge rate is continuous. How many times have we heard things like that?

As for taking the output for a load, one thing I can think of is to disconnect the load from the HF transformer. A pair or series of caps, one charging from the transformer while a different one is discharging to the load, the caps being in rotation between the transformer and load. All the transformer will ever see is the load from a cap being charged.

Lol, in my mind I keep picturing the HF transformer hooked up to a Gatling gun made of caps, firing into a big smoothing cap hooked to a load. :) How would you diagram that? :)


forest

Cadman


Now you are talking my language  :P   ;)   Everybody, listen...  ;D ;D [size=78%] please check Tesla interview on his works with alternating currents... tips are planted there like rye  in good soil... for example Diag 6 [/size] ???

Bob Smith

Hope I'm not being a pain here guys. Trying to sift out more tidbits from Tito's posts.
Bob
QuoteHi sir teets,
Do you mean to replace the sparkgap with a capacitor?

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on April 14, 2013, 04:44:54 AM
NO!. The spark gap is already a capacitor, just make it quiet.  ;)

be careful ladies and gentle men your dealing with extra ordinary voltage here if making lots of series  bifi.
sometimes you don't notice and expect that you are reaching beyond limits in nature.  :o

extremely careful!  :)

Back emf means pulling from outside going back inside, so if your device can pull strong energy going back and you are near at it then lets celebrate  ;D  rip lol joke

according to tesla about his bifi coils strength is 250,000 times stronger than ordinary coils, so its great and really strong isn't it?   

BIFI= STRONG PLUS OTHER SERIES = STONGER PLUS OTHER SERIES = STRONGEST  ;D 

50,000 VOLTS AND UP PLUS CAPS = STINGING EFFECT CAN BE FELT, WELL THAT'S ACCORDING TO TESLA, HOW MUCH MORE IF YOU CAN REACH MORE, WOW YOUR MORE THAN TESLA THEN  ;D
QuoteFOR ME AND FOR TESLA, THE ENERGY IS ALREADY THERE AND EVERYWHERE COMPLETELY IN BALANCE STATE AND REALLY IN CONSERVATIVE ACTION, AND ALL WE NEED TO DO IS TO DISTURB IT IN THE AIR AND RECEIVE AND SQUEEZE IT FROM THE AIR. 8)

THE PLAN OF TESLA IS REALLY TO MAKE FLUCTUATION SO THAT TRANSFER AND INDUCTION IS POSSIBLE  ;) 

AND THE ROOT OF AMPLIFICATION IS THE SEPARATED PULSE.  8) 

A CHAIN OF RE- ACTING IS THE WAY. ;)   8)

WE ARE ALREADY LIVING IN SEA OF ENERGY JUST HARNESSED IT  ;)
Source: http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg358807/#msg358807
Quoteok!

Lets say we have a fully charged caps, if we make, make/break very fast, the caps will not fully discharge, and we can replenish it and back charge it in just one very fast make/break ok?

note: this technique is one side of the secret of tesla and its not anymore secret, it is fully showed in many tesla's patent.

another note: verrrrrry faaaaast make break.

Imagine we can make a lot of energy in just a very small chunks and that's truth.  :)   

Try to review the controller of tesla the material he used and look how fast he can make his make/break technique.  ;)

i can compare this in one kicking of the bicycle, one kick and we can make a lot of rotation or make long distance from point of start.  8)

Actually there is no very special to the other side, its just really a common sense, believe me guys. ;)
Well, there is really a very little trick in the coil on how will you coil it. ;)
Source: http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg363778/#msg363778
QuoteWell, in primary it is best to do it in thick awg bifi and secondary is arbitrary and they were done in one purpose.   

Ya, you try to connect and disconnect the caps, i mean very fast and it will not discharge all the juice. if you can make many make and break. then that's it. all you need then is how will you make your coil very efficient. isn't that simple guys?. its a piece of cake.  ;) 

Its like answering how many make/break you can do in just one fully charge caps?
Source: http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg363848/#msg363848
Quoteok!
The real secret lys in just every small kick to start a chain reaction that creates a momentum to propel itself.  8) :o

Now just put that in circuit and thats it. :)

so long fel. thats gold and truth!  >:(

a single stick of a match can burn the whole earth and one capacitor is very enough to give us free energy, well if you want two or more  then so what its ok, it will give help to other caps and thats good also but bulky and many.  ;)

like what i already said, battery can solve grounding ok, for professional look. or connect it in the core to make balance in the reaction of or in the field.  8)
Source: http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg370928/#msg370928


Bob Smith

Quotei want you also to discover the DC way of amplification cause ive'd found out that this is more safer than AC, well that is just my obsevation.  :)

it is really good to re examine others work to formulate a better one.  ;)

For me in my studies research and experience, the best or efficient way is not Ac nor DC BUT the combination of the two.  8) 
Source: http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg371090/#msg371090

Quote@forest
              as i told everyone we are not limited to one design ok, we are free. The important thing is you must knew the working engine. :) 
     
        Be careful buddy i know what you mean. that's very dangerous. :) :'(

it can strike very fast like lightning. :)   :(
insulate your self ok?, be safe. :)
Cause without you, there will be flood in the city. like in the Philippines ;D

@stuffynose  ;D

Source is not a big deal anymore okay.  ;)  let say we use the antenna source, the style of coil should be according to what it needs ok,

now if battery, of course it should depends on how you can use the full strength of the certain battery volts and its amp.  8)

in that way, what i mean a say is that it always  depends on the source how you make your primary phases of coils. hope you get it. :-\   ???

it always need matching technique and balance. and timing is not anymore big deal also here but still included.  ???

let say for example a child or a baby cannot chew foods that an adult can. ;)

Well, one time i made a design that needs a battery for just a starter, and if you will not remove it, it is being charge. so after start you remove it and that's it. it should stand itself.  ;)  and that design falls under sm, hubbard , bearden design. just caps ok 8)

and if you want antenna you really need at least two to three phase or i mean stage or whatever you call it. :D

BUT the best for me is the DC amplification, believe me. ;)   :)
Source: http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg371649/#msg371649

Quotewell, bifilar is the best in primary, cause it doubles the effect of the input.  ;) ;D

The design should always be simple as it can be, cause in the time of tesla he is just limited for electronic components ok.  ;)

I BELEIVE I HAVE GIVEN ALL NECESSARY TOOLS TO USE, ONLY SOME PART OF ARRANGEMENT IS MISSING. ;D
Source:  http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg371809/#msg371809
QuoteFor the Transformer part bifilar is indeed a better primary than single wire.Is the MAGIC COIL has the same length with the secondary coil in your design, what do you think that will work best, the same length or much longer than the secondary?

I have my focus on DC Amplification of Carloz Benitez 4 Battery Switch this guy has combine all the fame invention of Nikola Tesla into one set up with a promising result.

Again.. Thank you very much for that answer Bro Otits. ;)

::)stupifymeow 8) 8)

Tito's Response:
I am happy now for there is someone understand what i mean. :) ;)

Its actually an incident combination of the two multiply by 3. ;D  sorry for the exotic formula.  ;D

The longer wire will add up strength of the field, but it works best if you make the secondary is inside of effect strenght of the primary so that the extra wire will not become a friction to the flow. and from there you should be doing a large spark which is what we really is aiming.

and don't forget to add some KAL(SO4)2.12H2O at the HV portion.  8) :)

and that is the balance i am saying.  ;)

That's all i can give buddy. be carefull.  ;) 

note1: it is the friction that makes things hot. avoid overheat ok.  ;)
         That is really the main reason why successful design is perfect.  ???
          There should have heat but not overheat ok  ;)
Source: http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg371817/#msg371817

Dave45

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on April 29, 2013, 04:09:15 AM

Well, for me, radioactive is just another way of making energy, and in this way we are using energy in input to output, did you get that, i can't explain it very clear.  ;D  for me not a good way to ou.


FOR ME AND FOR TESLA, THE ENERGY IS ALREADY THERE AND EVERYWHERE COMPLETELY IN BALANCE STATE AND REALLY IN CONSERVATIVE ACTION, AND ALL WE NEED TO DO IS TO DISTURB IT IN THE AIR AND RECEIVE AND SQUEEZE IT FROM THE AIR. 8)


THE PLAN OF TESLA IS REALLY TO MAKE FLUCTUATION SO THAT TRANSFER AND INDUCTION IS POSSIBLE  ;) 


AND THE ROOT OF AMPLIFICATION IS THE SEPARATED PULSE8) 


A CHAIN OF RE- ACTING IS THE WAY. ;)   8)


WE ARE ALREADY LIVING IN SEA OF ENERGY JUST HARNESSED IT  ;)