ENERGY AMPLIFICATION

[Magluvin]

I believe Tito when he says you have to build up momentum.  Here's why:

Well, the EZ spin motor uses very little input(ave 80mw, about 500ua), pulses(taps) the motor 12 times per rotation, and the rotor builds momentum. But still no OU.   But very close to unity. 

Mags

[a.king21]

Well, the EZ spin motor uses very little input(ave 80mw, about 500ua), pulses(taps) the motor 12 times per rotation, and the rotor builds momentum. But still no OU.   But very close to unity. 

Mags

If Tesla's skyscraper was a garden shed - would he have achieved the same result? I think not. I think that the small size of the shed would not have allowed enough energy to be isolated from the source to be meaningful. It's like rolling a snowball down a hill. If it only picks up a few bits here and there it is laughable. However I have (in my  youth) ended up tearing up whole sections of lawn and earth with a monster snowball.
I was once upstairs on a bus as a kid and two idiots decided to rock from side to side. Within seconds that alarmed bus driver flew upstairs screaming. Those kids could have overturned that bus had they not stopped. Two scrawny 12 year olds. Imagine that.
So I guess one's perception of over unity depends on one's personal experience. I have never forgotten the bus incident.
I think we fail because we don't go high enough.
Keep experimenting.

[Magluvin]

If Tesla's skyscraper was a garden shed - would he have achieved the same result? I think not. I think that the small size of the shed would not have allowed enough energy to be isolated from the source to be meaningful. It's like rolling a snowball down a hill. If it only picks up a few bits here and there it is laughable. However I have (in my  youth) ended up tearing up whole sections of lawn and earth with a monster snowball.
I was once upstairs on a bus as a kid and two idiots decided to rock from side to side. Within seconds that alarmed bus driver flew upstairs screaming. Those kids could have overturned that bus had they not stopped. Two scrawny 12 year olds. Imagine that.
So I guess one's perception of over unity depends on one's personal experience. I have never forgotten the bus incident.
I think we fail because we don't go high enough.
Keep experimenting.

Hey Aking

Well, the building tesla was tapping into resonance is more like a very large inverted pendulum, where gravity pull and the weight of the thing are in reverse conditions vs a normal pendulum as we know them, and, the difference in how the are mounted or based is opposite also, where a normal pen is normally free wheeling and the building, the base is a solid mount and the inverted pen arm is used as a spring. Spings can be used on any pen to increase freq. Im just making examples.

But the tin shed is like a balance wheel in a wrist watch in comparison.  Possibly a big freq increase of the tapper would get it to shake to some level of resonation. It might not be ringing like a bell, but im sure there is a freq that can get it into a tantrum of sorts and make more noise than the tapper made. But all in all, there is no mass for momentum in the tin shed.    Not for this project.

When ya think about it, a big building structure, from what I read, and unfinished iron framework, I would imagine a pretty low freq for the tapper. Do we have any detailed info on the size, dimension
of the structure?  Any details of maybe how many taps it would take to get a full shake goin on?

This is where we have to stop just reading it and do it.

Build a solid base to mount a vertical structure in miniature. What ever size floats your boat. Size, mass and stiffness/flexibility will determining operating freq. Tap it at the base of the structure as the Tesla story goes and see what happens.  This isnt a million dollar build.  This is a simple project. Use stainless steel strips as the structure and add weight to the top, or not. What ever freq you want to adjust it to. Use some alum angle pieces to attach firmly to the solid base.

Tapping?  Magnet on the strip near the bottom and pulse with a coil. Tap tap tap. 

Or if someone wants to go further and build a model of a building frame,     then they might see more than one freq of operation.  Different sections having their own freq, and so on.

The tapper could be a solenoid with a pin that pops out and taps it.  But we need to get real with it. In comparison to the Tesla story, a desktop model would have to be tapped with most likely very tiny taps.  We cant just start hard taping with even 1w of power. In my estimation. We have zero description on the taper details like weight of the hammer, so on.  So experimenting is all there is to settle it. 

If you believe in what you read, then this is an affordable project for anyone. All parts from Ace Hardware, Radioshack, junk drawer.    Ives gots me a whole lotta them thar junk drawers.    Ive delved in to many many projects of all sorts before I got more heavily involved in ou in 2007, forums and all.  Sooo, I have a lot of good junk. Still got more I wanna get. In time.


Now, if you find that the tapper required more in than was gotten out of the vibrating structure, then what are we missing? 

If the tapper could actually get the building to rock n roll, did it only take a single winding of the spring, or 10 windings?  How many taps at freq till max convulsion?       Very little detail if any on specifics. So build it and find out what gives. 

I have a base I made a while back.  I put it off for more important stuff and it wont take much to get something happening.   Its made as I described above with stainless strip. 

Now imagine. The impact of the tapper would be equal to a lot of energy in a very short period of time. Impact. Instant.  So the desk top model, it may be tough to simulate a tiny enough hammer to offer fair comparison to the story. So Ill tend to go coil tapping a mag on the strip.  lil HV in a tiny cap and discharge. Tap tap tap.

In order to get big swings on the top of the structure, we need to have high energy impacts somewhere just above the base of the strip mounting. In order to at least approximate the story line.

Anyway, just wanted to throw that out there.  I have a little time I can slap this thing together here soon.

Mags

[Tito L. Oracion]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rP5EuPFEwh0

[CuriousChris]

In Tesla's own words he mentions over unity, without using that term.

As usual taking Tesla out of context with no understanding. In everyone of those exepriments Tesla spoke about he provided the source energy in the form of vibrational resonant energy.

For the earthquake he had a machine which added energy to the building in a resonant fashion. In such circumstances the small input is additive, meaning that in the end the small vibrations amounted to large vibrations. This is exactly why soldiers break step when marching across a bridge. all stepping in rythm can cause the bridge to resonate and fail.

For the electrical example he was showing how electricity can be transferred wirelessly over a distance with minimal loss. In each of those experiments he also provided the source energy. There was no over unity just exceptional efficiency.

When you read Tesla you need to understand Tesla. If you don't what you are doing is picking familiar words like a dog hearing "food", "ball", "walkies" sounds great to the dog until he gets to the vets door and realises he was tricked by some food a ball and a walk and now he is going to have a thermometer shoved up his clacker.

Don't be the dog and fooled by misquotes of Tesla.