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ENERGY AMPLIFICATION

Started by Tito L. Oracion, February 06, 2009, 01:45:08 AM

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Bob Smith

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on March 09, 2015, 07:49:22 AM
i just want to share this everyone. ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQNPvbVZ6Vk
Just thought I'd share this along with this helpful video Tito Posted:
http://www.diyphysics.com/2012/02/09/d-i-y-250-kv-high-voltage-dc-power-supply-with-neat-trick-for-switching-polarity/
Note the page's description of the Cockroft-Walton voltage multiplier:
QuoteThe Cockroft-Walton multiplier uses a cascaded series of diodes and capacitors to generate a high voltage DC potential from an AC input through a circuit topology that uses diodes to charge capacitors in parallel and discharge them in series.
"... charging in parallel, discharging in series..." Sound familiar?
Bob

Magluvin

Quote from: Bob Smith on March 10, 2015, 12:15:42 PM
Just thought I'd share this along with this helpful video Tito Posted:
http://www.diyphysics.com/2012/02/09/d-i-y-250-kv-high-voltage-dc-power-supply-with-neat-trick-for-switching-polarity/
Note the page's description of the Cockroft-Walton voltage multiplier: "... charging in parallel, discharging in series..." Sound familiar?
Bob

Thats a lot of voltage.  But what do we do with that to get us some extra out? ??? We would need to measure the input and compare to the output.

Mags

Magluvin

It is all good to know.  But transforming into a higher power is the key.  Another thing is safety. 250kv is no joke. Is it possible that xrays are emitted from the spark gap?  At that voltage transistors are not an option really. Relays dont have enough throw distance to help.

Im kind scared to get into those areas. It may be a setback for me here. Tesla lived to a good old age. But he knew things we do not.

I get that raising the voltage, even though it has less total current available, can be dumped into a low resistance, but what emanates from that blast that might be harmful or at the least, detectable. Detectable as in, maybe it could be detected that such a device is operating and get into deep trouble over it. Multiple discharges of 250kv may attract FCC or worse.

Thats why I have always stated that I would rather try for a softer go at it. Would be great to work at lower voltages, and lower freq if possible.

So with my walls in front of my goals, maybe I am wasting time. But I keep stepping forward, one step at a time. ;)

Mags

Bob Smith

Quote from: Magluvin on March 10, 2015, 09:21:16 PM
It is all good to know.  But transforming into a higher power is the key.  Another thing is safety. 250kv is no joke. Is it possible that xrays are emitted from the spark gap?  At that voltage transistors are not an option really. Relays dont have enough throw distance to help.

Im kind scared to get into those areas. It may be a setback for me here. Tesla lived to a good old age. But he knew things we do not.

I get that raising the voltage, even though it has less total current available, can be dumped into a low resistance, but what emanates from that blast that might be harmful or at the least, detectable. Detectable as in, maybe it could be detected that such a device is operating and get into deep trouble over it. Multiple discharges of 250kv may attract FCC or worse.

Thats why I have always stated that I would rather try for a softer go at it. Would be great to work at lower voltages, and lower freq if possible.

So with my walls in front of my goals, maybe I am wasting time. But I keep stepping forward, one step at a time. ;)

Mags
I hear ya, Mags. HV wouldn't be my preference either. I think Tito hinted that there were a few ways to get the desired result, and yours may well be one of them. What I see is an antenna to collect ambient charge, followed by something that will pulse. For me his link to the negative resistance oscillator was a good example. YT user Larskro also has a very low mV Joule Thief oscillator on his channel - I think the lowest anyone's come up with yet.  The other thing that I got a sense Teets was alluding to was the use of litz wire to multiply current after the pulse. That could be stepped up for increased voltage. Finally the special coil :) which I think you're well on the way to working out. I believe its magic lies in its ability to act as  a secondary without affecting the primary's resonance.
Take care,
Bob

Magluvin

Quote from: Bob Smith on March 11, 2015, 09:50:19 AM
I hear ya, Mags. HV wouldn't be my preference either. I think Tito hinted that there were a few ways to get the desired result, and yours may well be one of them. What I see is an antenna to collect ambient charge, followed by something that will pulse. For me his link to the negative resistance oscillator was a good example. YT user Larskro also has a very low mV Joule Thief oscillator on his channel - I think the lowest anyone's come up with yet.  The other thing that I got a sense Teets was alluding to was the use of litz wire to multiply current after the pulse. That could be stepped up for increased voltage. Finally the special coil :) which I think you're well on the way to working out. I believe its magic lies in its ability to act as  a secondary without affecting the primary's resonance.
Take care,
Bob

Hey Bob

Yeah, coil with a tail. Utkin shows an example of one of the 2 opposing coils open at the outer end. Possibly the primary induces the 2 coils, and the one that is loaded produces current and the other coil produces voltage added to the loaded coil?

Anyway, been trying to put time into it. Just have to make mounting posts for the sec and try some things.


Just picked up a variable supply last week. Ebay $78 shipped  30v 10a.  Played with it a bit and it works very nicely. Been wanting one. But Ill go bateries on this as to not possibly hurt the supply.

Mags