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Tesla Patent 382282, and all related to his transformers/converters

Started by clone477, February 07, 2009, 04:31:11 PM

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Room3327

Hi All,
    I can now report that I have a smoothly rotating N-S magnetic field across the diameter of my field winding.  It works very well, to prove it I balanced a steel rod on a pin set in the center and it spins it right up, at lower frequency's, up to about 400Hz (magnetic field does not respond well enough to grab on to the rod much past that).  Guess I just reinvented the electric motor.  But it is fun to play with, I had to destroy my original converter coil in order to get at and reconnect the field windings.  So I have been playing with just the field winding and it's core and I have been discovering some very interesting things. I have a new converter design in mind already that I am going to start building.  It will incorporate some things from other peoples ideas at this forum and should be able to spin to over a million RPM.  The highest I have run this one is 156,000 RPM but the mag field is not good, the steel does not respond well as I knew it wouldn't.  That is 2.6 KHz being fed in, much too high for the steel. My new one will not have this problem. Stay tuned this adventure is not over yet.

pix

Hi Room 327,
I am guessing how about your driving coils.In high frequency apliations long coils doesn't work good because of high reluctancy- it is like inertia and mass-more weight more inertia,you will not move heavy truck with even a big force when it is applied too short period of time,as a pulse let's say.I think that driving coils should be more flat if you want to have high frequency rotation- but it is my only personal opinion.
Also, using soft steel core for high frequncy- my thinking is that maybe core should be biased to saturation first with constant magnetic field-then you apply pulses by driving coils, at high frequency soft steel woudn't respond magnetically.Soft steel has a frequency limitation.
It is good that You have time to do a real experimentation.I wish You success.
Regards,
pix

Room3327

@Pix,
     Your just the man I wanted to talk to.  I took a look at a copper loop for the core to see how it worked, like you asked me to test.  I wound 8 turns and laid it on top of the rotating field core and got basically nothing.  I then wound a output coil right around the field core and took a look at it.  Again basically nothing except transformer action about a volt as I expected.  So between these two coils I had basically nothing and then it struck me, maybe the core loops needed a bias on them so I tried connecting the output winding in series with the loop winding, again not much.  Then I thought maybe it needs a DC bias in the loop so I put a diode in series with the two coils hooked in series, Bingo, It started giving me more voltage out.  I changed the diode to a bridge rectifier connecting the output coil to the loop winding and this little partial test setup was outputting way more voltage then I could account for.  Increasing the rotation speed I found the voltage increasing with the speed increase!  At 156,000 RPM I had 30 volts output, it appeared to be doubling for every 1500 Hz increase in frequency, this is amazing and it was on the steel core which does not respond to that frequency well. The output looked just like SM's description, DC with in this case 2.6 KHz hash on it. I do believe we may be on to something.
   My next converter will have copper loop windings for the core, I am going to use two, one at the top and one at the bottom, and bring the ends out so I can experiment with it.  Another article I was reading said a magnetic field would follow right down a copper wire and another one stated that electrons would follow the magnetic field spiralling around it.  I think this is happening in this device and I think the rotating field squeezes the electrons around the loop core like squeezing water out of a hose. And just to top this off it has a slight vibration and a very slight gyroscopic feel to it.  I think this is closer then we have ever been.

pix

Bingo my friend!
I have never believed that SM device is complicated.
Many people on this forum tried fo solve TPU by very sophispicated ways and theories.
Most beautiful are simple solutions.
I was always thinking of the "squeezing electrons out of the wire" like squeezing water out of the garden hose.
Today transformers have laminated steel plates, nobody is using insulated steel or other wires as a core. Also in normal transformer nothing would happen since magnetic field is OSCILLATING in both directions.
I was wondering-what would happen in  the core - IF we will use insulated wires AND when we ROTATE magnetic field in one direction ALONG core made with wires !
A DC magnetic bias would be solution for high frequency ( many rpm), to go over magnetic saturation point of core loops- otherwise driving coils pulse would be lost trying to magnetize core loops material.
For driving coils at high frequency I would use flat coils with low reluctance.
For core loops use diode or bridge rectifier- to give electrons only one way chance to move :-).
If You use copper wire for the core loop, maybe a good idea would be to insert inside something ferromagnetic, for example between copper loops biased soft stel core or ferromagnetic- to give  closed loop path for magnetic field.
Wish You a sucess,keep working on this way- squeezing by high rpm rotating magneic field - core windings.Nobody on this forum did try this way.
Best regards,
pix



gyulasun

Hi Room3327,

Perhaps it is too early yet but have you thought of loading your output voltage with a few kiloOhm of resistor or maybe  with a heavier one like a lamp bulb to see how your full setup behaves for a load? 

Thanks for the interesting findings and keep up good work. Maybe the modified schematics would help others too.

rgds,  Gyula

Quote from: Room3327 on March 26, 2009, 01:24:07 PM
@Pix,
     Your just the man I wanted to talk to.  I took a look at a copper loop for the core to see how it worked, like you asked me to test.  I wound 8 turns and laid it on top of the rotating field core and got basically nothing.  I then wound a output coil right around the field core and took a look at it.  Again basically nothing except transformer action about a volt as I expected.  So between these two coils I had basically nothing and then it struck me, maybe the core loops needed a bias on them so I tried connecting the output winding in series with the loop winding, again not much.  Then I thought maybe it needs a DC bias in the loop so I put a diode in series with the two coils hooked in series, Bingo, It started giving me more voltage out.  I changed the diode to a bridge rectifier connecting the output coil to the loop winding and this little partial test setup was outputting way more voltage then I could account for.  Increasing the rotation speed I found the voltage increasing with the speed increase!  At 156,000 RPM I had 30 volts output, it appeared to be doubling for every 1500 Hz increase in frequency, this is amazing and it was on the steel core which does not respond to that frequency well. The output looked just like SM's description, DC with in this case 2.6 KHz hash on it. I do believe we may be on to something.
   My next converter will have copper loop windings for the core, I am going to use two, one at the top and one at the bottom, and bring the ends out so I can experiment with it.  Another article I was reading said a magnetic field would follow right down a copper wire and another one stated that electrons would follow the magnetic field spiralling around it.  I think this is happening in this device and I think the rotating field squeezes the electrons around the loop core like squeezing water out of a hose. And just to top this off it has a slight vibration and a very slight gyroscopic feel to it.  I think this is closer then we have ever been.