Help needed with Hyde Generator

[Steven Dufresne]

Paul and Vince,
Wow. Seriously out-of-the-box thinking there. Thanks.

Paul. It wouldn't be difficult at all to seal it for a single test. However, the box walls have to be removed each time I need to make adjustments to the spacing between the stator, rotor and HV plates, which is often as part of the experimental procedure. I can imagine sealing and unsealing would add a lot to that time unless I make a whole new box. Also, I need air flow over the motor; it heats up fast. So I'd need to add some other sort of cooling, possibly water. It's sounding just as simple to go with a new motor.

Vince. No problem trying that. I'd worry about air ionization being important though. I wouldn't want to blow it all away.
-Steve
http://rimstar.org   http://wsminfo.org
PS. Sorry for the delayed response. I was away Saturday.

[Steven Dufresne]

How difficult would it be to build an air tight box around the entire apparatus (or find
a suitable such box), and then connect a tube to a domestic vacuum cleaner in
order to reduce the air pressure and wind losses? (There might eventually be
overheating problems).

Paul,
Crazy as your idea sounds, I actually tried it. See the attached photo montage. I managed to drop the air pressure by about 1 inch Hg as you can see from the pressure gauge. At that point the outer acrylic window (there are two 1/8" layers of acrylic on the inside of the box and 1/8" layer on the outside) was seriously bowed inward so I didn't bother sealing better. There was no noticable improvement in speed - the best I could get was around 3900 RPM which I've gotten without the reduced air pressure. It was worth a try though.

I'm not sure what approach I'll take next. I might get some better but smaller diameter rotors fabricated or I might try changing the stator from a solid metal plate to a mesh as with the testatika or I might return to my vacuum cleaner motor (see first post to this thread) but with a shorter shaft. What I'd really like to do is find a dual shaft motor that can give me 6000 RPM with the load I have but so far I'm not finding anything better than what I have.
-Steve
http://rimstar.org   http://wsminfo.org

[Steven Dufresne]

I guessed that maybe if I sealed the area where each rotor is, once the air gets moving, since it's enclosed in a circular pathway, it will keep most of its momentum and act like less of a load and I'd be picking up less new dead air. I also guessed that it would have the opposite effect, but I had to try, especially since in the patent the rotors are sealed in a circular housing in the same manner.

I got 4500 RPM, an encouraging improvement over my previous best of around 4000 RPM.

I used clear packing tape so I wonder if I used something less crinkly if it would be even better. Still no HV spikes, but Hyde didn't get those until around 6000 RPM.

For anyone who wants to see the whole story in one place, I've started updating the webpage:
http://rimstar.org/sdenergy/hyde_generator
-Steve
http://rimstar.org   http://wsminfo.org

[gotoluc]

Hi Steven,

I found one of your videos on YouTube and eventually got here

Knowing you a little, I would have to say that this Hyde generator must be quiet convincing

Your research work is impeccable and your video work is also top notch. It all looks very impressive to date.

From what I can quickly see, you are having an RPM limitation to be able to validate the Hyde generator. Is this still the current status?

Thanks for sharing.

Luc

[Steven Dufresne]

Hey Luc,
Good to hear from you again. I look in on your channel too every now and then. Always glad to see you're still at it.

You're right, I'm still stuck on the RPM issue.

But I also since contacted Hyde, the inventer, by leaving him a phone message with my website and email address in hopes of getting more details before proceeding with a new version. He wouldn't pick up when I called. Unfortunately all he told me via email was a rather brief statement that "HV leaks off a lot of materials" and then in response to my further prompting "thanks for your interest but this Advanced Energy Technology is still in court and I cant make much comment about it."

So from that I take it that my next version should have less sharp edges, more like the patent's thick metal segments.

I've also since tried adapting the Hyde geometry to the testatika and done some tests there do to the seeming correlations, but no success so far.
-Steve