I actually need an answer ?

[jadaro2600]

@all:

I think you missed my point; the central office may have a diesel backup; each telephone switching station ( large boxes on the side of the road ) has a battery backup system in it - this is part of why they are so large, additionally, they somtimes share services with other utilities, such as underground electric and / or cable.  When these other utilities go out, they can / could use phones to turn on or off circuits that were previously damaged.

Don't confuse these with the ground transformers, they usually say high voltage on the sides of them and , if you're chancy enough to go sit on one, it usually vibrates because of the AC electricity flowing through it.  Telephone switches are located, mainly at the ends of neighborhoods or the corners of roads ( where they can easily be hit by cars, ironically - costing up to $150k if they're destroyed ), they usually don't buzz, for one, and are pretty clear about who owns them - being labled and what not.  Either one way or another - stay away from them.  It's not wise to be near either, gawking at one or another what with all this 9-11 crap.

Either way - what happens, is that there is a voltage drop across the line when a phone call comes in, and the reciever picks this up and starts to ring.  All call going from one box to another are digital now, it the signal from the box to your house that';s a combination of digital and analog ( voice ).  The wierd thing about the lines are that the one going to your house can usually carry up to 6 analog lines, so it has 12 conductors.  But, if you were to get all 6 hooked up and simultaneously subcsribe to commercial grade DSL - you could get something like 18 megabits downstream and 1.5 or 3 megabits upstream - which is insane for a single house.

In either case though, the boxes which take care of the digital to digital links between boxes are controlled by microprocessors that have to be on all the time - hence each one needs to have it's own supply of electricity - usually a battery in the case of AC outages - otherwise it's just working off of regular power grid being converted to DC and then controlled from there.

The interesting part is when the information goes long distance - they usually use Tesla's technology - wireless transmission with microwaves.  There is a thread on the forum about Avramenko and Tesla single wire transmission of electricity.  In this instance, conical collectors and emitters are set up at the sending and recieving stations and a single wire is run between them as would a normal transmission line would, instead, it's launching microwaves onto the wire and sending electricity via this mechanism.

Microwave towers do this without a wire - they're being outmoded where they can - they're usually just use to transmitt info across mountian ranges or where lines couldn't be burried easily.  All else is on the fiberoptic network - which usually gets burried beside the railroad or along side gas pipelines.

Our infrastructure is jumbled like this because of right-of-way issues - they could be damaged, more than one utility taken off line by car accident or what-not.  Sorry I have no solutions for preventing such a calamity, especially when there is a universality of utilites with regard to right-of-way issues.

[Megaverse]

Wow err ok ! So in bref no one knows if there is an independent company or affiliates (doesn't matter) that their goal is to always find news ways to make electricity to keep those damn lines up 24/24 7/7 ?

about what everyone here is trying to do ...the dream job in bref ? that's what i was looking for, to at least know if it existed, then i'll do something about it. but knowing one over there in the US while i'm living in Quebec not sure it will help at all.

So i think it's better to let that thread die even though it was really interesting !

Thank you all again, i've learned alot and "off topic" if anyone has an old metal spinning top that you have to push down on the handle to make it turn, could you open it and take a photo of the interior and post it please i need an exact plan of it so if i can just see the mechanism in it on the photo it should be enough for my presentation ...thanks in advanced.

Sincerely,

Megaverse

[Megaverse]

err nevermind the last request i got one from the flee market, thanks

[jadaro2600]

LOL,

Well, do you mind taking it apart and posting a picture; now i'm curious too.

As for the company your asking about; it would really be an indie company; most likely specialist near retirement or a consultancy agency.  As for names, I don't really know of any - they are rare finds - that is, people that know these kinds of things with certainty.

I don't know of any company that specializes in keeping phone lines active when power goes out other than the phone company itself - have you tried a general inquiry?

One time, I wired the entire house for DSL filtering - so that there weren't dsl dongles all over the house, and when the crew came up and saw all my handy work in the box, they rewired everything - filtering was already available in the corporate side of the outside wall box - don't I feel stupid.   ..but these guys were older, it looked like they knew what they were doing - of course it's rather suspicious that two of them were old, and that it took two of them to do the job.  Or the fact that two of them were sent at all - usually the work of one man, after all, I had done that stuff on my own.

By the way, if you're in the US, you can and do have the right to access the consumer side of the phone box, it's not locked and it not illegal - after all, they have to switch services on from somewhere else anyway...it's nothing like cable.

[Megaverse]

Well, do you mind taking it apart and posting a picture; now i'm curious too.

hmm ok i hope people don't mind too much of the off topic i'll post 4 image i took without ripping it apart. you'll see it's quite deceiving. I really would need to break it (break the little 1cm dia. shaft in the middle) to see anything and even then lol i think it would be ruined so since my children are playing with it i'll let it like that for now and i'll open it in a week or 2 ...

By the way, if you're in the US, you can and do have the right to access the consumer side of the phone box

and no i'm in quebec ...here it's quite different and you can barely do anything. it may not be against the law to play or at least open the boxes but you'll never see anyone play with it that's for sure, lol.
probably because 1) no one knows and 2)no one knows what the hell they are hahaha.

have you tried a general inquiry?

Ohh yes i've tried the general inquiry from the cusumer services and they reffered me to the repair services so i called them and they didn't even know that it worked with electricity AND they reffered me back to consumer services


Sincerely,

Mega