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New youtube of magnet/coil "perpetual motion"

Started by Hugo Chavez, February 15, 2009, 10:00:13 AM

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magnetman12003

Quote from: pinestone on September 01, 2009, 11:01:38 PM
My experiments have shown the coil core diameter should be equal to the magnets diameter for the best performance.  Using iron rods in this arrangement is similar to a laminated core (like a screen door for electrons...ha ha).
A FET transistor would be a better choice for the coil driver- fast switching with low loss.
As for the diode, any general purpose switching diode should work.

Like I said earlier, this is just a 'thought experiment', and I've never actually tried to build one, but I've made quite a few Bedini, Adams and other similar types of motors successfully.

Little DC motors will generate electricity, but finding the best motor for this type of application may take some digging- plus the correct ratio between the rotor diameter and the generator (motor) output will be tricky to figure out.

The biggest problem I see with ANY attempt at overunity is when a real load is put on the device, there will not be enough power to keep going. It may run itself, but that would be like a dog chasing its tail-

good luck

BTW, in my original description, I said the dc generator (motor) will spin 4-5 times faster than the outer magnets, but what I mean is there will be 4-5 more times the TORQUE on the generator (motor) than the outside of the rotor. My bad.


Hi Pinestone,

Can you illustrate exactly how the coils in your diamram are connected into this circuit. I need to know where L1 and L2 start as in and leave as out.The larger more windings being green less windings being red.

Thanks, Tom











windings

pinestone

magnetman12003

A simple transformer-type coupling uses the primary and secondary wound around the same core.
It's easier to wind two seperate coils instead of winding them bi-filar, like a Bedini circuit uses.

The reason for using a bi-filar wound coil is to eliminate inductance by connecting both coils out of phase with each other, but that may not be necessary in this circuit.

This type of arrangement should work:


magnetman12003

Whats the advantage of making the iron core of the coil 1/2 inch in diameter verses making it 3/4 inch in diameter?

I would think a smaller iron core would concentrate a magnetic field better providing it has not reached saturation.

pinestone

Quote from: magnetman12003 on September 12, 2009, 02:52:17 PM
Whats the advantage of making the iron core of the coil 1/2 inch in diameter verses making it 3/4 inch in diameter?

I would think a smaller iron core would concentrate a magnetic field better providing it has not reached saturation.

It's not a matter of concentrating the field, it's the hysteresis that's important. This is something you will have to experiment with. Small cores result in a faster hysteresis and a lesser gain of inductance over the bare coil.

Here's a power transformer Bedini i made a while ago- It has a giant core !


Ergo

Quote from: pinestone on September 13, 2009, 04:24:02 PM
Here's a power transformer Bedini i made a while ago- It has a giant core !

Small or Giant core doesn't matter!!!. It isn't overunity.....Right!!!

There has never been any Bedini motor being overunity. This tech is a dead end to investigate.
In the case there is an report on OU there is no way to confirm anything. Mostly due to the
inventor being impossible to meet or willing to let others take measurements on his contrapment.
When there is an followup, the Bedini has always been proven not OU, and the inventor has to
face he's lacking all basic "know how" regarding proper and well defined measurement techniques.