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My Current Build

Started by BAHammer, February 23, 2009, 07:13:36 PM

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BAHammer

#15
February 28, 2009, 09:41:57 AM
  @All,
This is what the wheel looks like going to 8 arms and weights.
If you look inside the cicrle, you will see a scissor type movement.
If you look inside the rectangle near the bottom, you will see 2 weights close together.
rlortie & AB Hammer have both said this is a Keel Effect. That by having weights close
together at the bottom, or more below the level of the axle than above it, it will prevent a wheel from working.
Myself, I would venture a guess that this is the design Bessler was refering to when he said he used scissors. With this design, 5 weights will be below the level of the axle for about 120 degrees of the rotation.
The cool part is that math states that even though this is so, the over balanced side will have more force than the side where the weights are at their starting position. I guess this means how many weights are above or below the axle doesn't matter much as long as the same side has a continues net force.   ;D
There are possibly some things that can be done to make this type of wheel more efficient. This would go back to some of the statements Bessler made. Such as using springs and metal plates.

edited to add; I do consider this drawing and image to be copyrighted  :)

AB Hammer

#16
February 28, 2009, 06:39:33 PM
Hay Jim

How long until you build it?

I am not sure if you know this, but the C inside of the circle means registered copyright. If it is not properly registered you need to remove the circle. If I am not mistaken.
With out a dream, there can be no vision.

Alan

BAHammer

#17
March 02, 2009, 07:24:20 AM
Quote from: helmut on February 24, 2009, 02:51:46 AM
@Jim
Good Idea

@
If centrifugal force occures, it might be possible to work with same weights.
One must  work with same weights because otherwhise the setup will find its equilibrium very soon.
To shift the weight outside the balance one have to employ a extern force.
A centrifugal force might be such a force.
I guess, that Besseler used the pendulums to store and release these extern forces.

helmut

  Helmut,
Tonight, I will be posting a drawing. It is something that hopefully you will say "Jim, I like it".
I do have a copy of your drawing I keep with my drawing pad. I know it helped me.
The way yours works is different and helped keep me from becoming fixated on one way of doing things.
I guess it will be Tuesday for you by the time you will see it. Hopefully, it will be a good start for your day.
Thanks for being a friend through all of this  :)

                                                                                 Jim

BAHammer

#18
March 02, 2009, 09:36:47 AM
Quote from: AB Hammer on February 28, 2009, 06:39:33 PM
Hay Jim

How long until you build it?

I am not sure if you know this, but the C inside of the circle means registered copyright. If it is not properly registered you need to remove the circle. If I am not mistaken.

  @All,
And this from someone who said they were going to patent my self rolling wheel. Am I missing something ?

@Helmut,
I'll send you the drawing and a link to Stefan. I think he might like to see it.
Helmut, if you or a friend of yours like the idea enough to try it, it would be okay with me.
There are a few medical problems I need to take care of first. After that, I would be able to enjoy doing a build much more.

                                                                                              Jim

AB Hammer

#19
March 02, 2009, 11:20:57 AM
Quote from: BAHammer on March 02, 2009, 09:36:47 AM
  @All,
And this from someone who said they were going to patent my self rolling wheel. Am I missing something ?



                                                                                              Jim


>:( Quit the bull $#!+ slander crap!!! Jim
I won't do what you do. I don't take others ideas and claim them mine. I have had over 600 designs. Why would I want something that was designed by somebody else? especially what you have come up with. You are not in the same class as I, when it comes to design. So build your design and learn what I have known for awhile. Only the build will teach you. Real life experience dood!!.

I knew you wouldn't check it out, and for those who would like to know about the copyright emblem question. Here is the link. I was partly mistaken. When I have a question, I look it up.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Is_it_illegal_to_use_the_copyright_symbol_without_registering
With out a dream, there can be no vision.

Alan
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