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New inventor of a Watercar (Bike)

Started by rensseak, January 17, 2006, 02:19:10 AM

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hartiberlin

Here is the D16 PDF attached to this posting.
I had to rename it to D_16.PDF cause it was uploaded
somehow already in the Attachment folder...

Enjoy ! It is pretty interesting !

Regards, Stefan.
(P.S: You must be logged into the forum to view or
download it.)
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

FreeEnergy

Quote from: hartiberlin on October 19, 2006, 10:25:20 PM
Here is the D16 PDF attached to this posting.
I had to rename it to D_16.PDF cause it was uploaded
somehow already in the Attachment folder...

Enjoy ! It is pretty interesting !

Regards, Stefan.
(P.S: You must be logged into the forum to view or
download it.)

reminds me of http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6138516845020080722

hartiberlin

Hi All,
I also tried to charge up 2 glasses of
1. tap water
and
2. saltwater

with some stainless steel dishcleaner metal wool.

I used 2 drinking glasses filled with hot water,
after I had cooked the water for 10 minutes and
all the air bubles have went out.

Then I first put some stainless steel dishcleaner metal wool
into every glas and filled it up with the hot water.
Then I added a wet saltwater paperbridge
between the 2 glasses and applied 12 Volts chopped
from a car battery charger unit.
As almost no current was drawn from the charger,
I replaced the wet saltwater bridge
between the 2 water glasses with an aluminium foil,
and now about 1 to 2 amps were flowing, depending
on the amount of salt in the 2 waterglasses.

Now there was bubbling at the metal wool,
but also at the alufoil and some black slack
was builing up at the anode (+12 Volts)
and some white Aluminiumchlorid or aluminiumhydroxid
was building up at the cathode and alufoil there...

But also hydrogen and oxygen bubbles were created.

Then I removed the metal wool and alufoil and thought,
I might have in one glas more hydrogen bubbles stored inside
the water and in the other glas more oxygen bubbles
stored inside the water....

Then I put in each glas a big graphite rod and measured,
if I would have any voltage between the 2 graphite rods...

but there was only about 0.01 DC voltage.
Before, when I did this with fresh tap water and
with the dry graphite rods, I got at least a 0.05 Volts reading,
probably, cause there was still some difference in the rods,
as I had used them before in other charging experiments...

So this experiment was failure...
But I think now, one has to charge up the water differently with
hydrogen or hydroxy gas...
It seems you really have to do it via a bubbler or also
with some pressure.
As the gas must go down the hose to go through a bubbler hose,
it builds up some pressure in the electrolizer, cause the
height of the water level has a hydrostatic pressure and the
gas pressure of the hydrogen or hydroxy must overcome this
height level hydrostatic pressure to be able to bubble the gas
through the bubbler water, as it must overcome the 20 cm or more deepth
the hose is put down into the water bubbler...

So there must be pressure in the electrolyser to overcome
this hydrostatic pressure and this pressure then also
makes the gas go into the electrolyzer water more easily.
Also if the gas is bubbled through the bubbler water with
fine bubbles like an aquarium stone-bubbler can do, it will
even further go into the bubbler water and be stored there
inside the water...

So I must use next time a different setup to try
to store the pure hydrogen or hydroxy gas
inisde water...
But now I will first concentrate to build an hydroxy gas oven
for the winter time by using a vaccum pump to pump
out the gas from the electrolyzer with vaccuum pressure and
mix it with air and burn it form heating purposes.

As the Magdrive folks have stated, that with the vaccuum of their
car motor their SuperGen pulls hydroxy gas as crazy from the electrolyzer
and the can run their car motor purely on hydroxy gas, I think
this is a valid concept to maybe build on overunity heating oven,
just powered by about 200 to 500 Watts and maybe get even
500 to 1000 Watts heat energy out. We will see...

Regards, Stefan.

Attached is a picture of my 2 glas setup.
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

mikestocks2006

Re: on the attached earlier MeyerRep.pdf

It?s interesting on page #5 that he hooks up the tube pairs, one pair to each one of the 3 phases from the alternator stator coils. Basically driving the water splitter with a direct sine type of wave?

buzneg

It would be interesting to know how much air is in standard water, the exact percentage, and how fast does it replenish when exposde to air? hydrogen being light and small must escape from water pritty fast, so it may be a matter of containment.