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New inventor of a Watercar (Bike)

Started by rensseak, January 17, 2006, 02:19:10 AM

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buzneg

#45
May 05, 2007, 08:05:16 PM
Where can I buy these metals that disolve in water to produce H? Magnesium makes H would it be the best bet? Wouldn't want anyother gases to be produced as they might take up space in the water.

Bruce_TPU

#46
May 05, 2007, 09:45:34 PM
I believe that Ryan used a Chemical, probably HCL (muriatic acid).  When Nickel is placed in HCL there is no reation.  But if you leave the Nickel in the HCL and run a wire attached to the Nickel and attach it to a piece of Zinc it will bubble up hydrogen gas.
I have included a link for you to see these experiments I ran across. 

http://jchemed.chem.wisc.edu/JCESoft/CCA/CCA3/MAIN/VOLTAGE/PAGE1.HTM

I think when Ryan connected the wires, he started this hydrogen reaction, under pressure in the sealed box and supersaturated the water with pure hydrogen.

I typo'd in my last post.  I believe the other resoivar in the box was HCL (muriatic acid) as I posted at an earlier date. Click the link above to see how I believe it was done.
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

pg46

#47
May 06, 2007, 01:20:31 AM
Hi buzneg-

One of the easiest methods to produce hydrogen gas is to place some scrap aluminum into water that has some potassium hydroxide(KOH) or some sodium hydroxide(called NaOH, caustic soda or lye). Careful though as the reaction can get very violent and very hot. The hotter it gets the faster the reaction.
I forget just now but I think that zinc in sulphuric acid will produce some hydrogen gas as well.
Protect your eyes and skin when fooling around with these chemicals because they are very dangerous if not handled properly!
btentzer is talking about different methods where two different metals placed in certain solutions and then connected will produce hydrogen. I too believe this is what Ryan has done. Not sure what the solution and metals he uses as there are several variations available I think to produce similar results. I wonder if he is producing just hydrogen gas or both hydrogen and oxygen(hydroxy)? If he is just making hydrogen then I wonder what the oxygen molecule attaches itself to and if that won't gunk up your container after a while requiring some periodic cleaning out?
Well, what is most important is not how Ryan makes the hydrogen but whether if when water is super saturated with hydrogen, will that water explode when put into the cylinder of an IC engine and fired? That's the main question that needs to be answered.

Bruce_TPU

#48
May 08, 2007, 02:57:00 PM
Quote from: pg46 on May 06, 2007, 01:20:31 AM

Well, what is most important is not how Ryan makes the hydrogen but whether if when water is super saturated with hydrogen, will that water explode when put into the cylinder of an IC engine and fired? That's the main question that needs to be answered.

Well spoken!  This is the question that needs to be answered.  Who has a small IC motor they can experiment with?
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

MarkEngr

#49
May 15, 2007, 03:55:00 PM
Would you need to change the timing in the motor or could you simply charge the water and pour it in? I cant remember if they said anything about the mechanics of the bike in the video. I am going to watch it again.
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