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Overunity Machines Forum



New inventor of a Watercar (Bike)

Started by rensseak, January 17, 2006, 02:19:10 AM

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pese

This is HHO

same as Brown , Rodiges or othe named sources

can produced as scematics  als with DC

The link that i guve 4 day vefore from India
that produce from 12VDC in Car Brown-Gas
additionally to Gasoline carbuator sourced all
frome same idea
Pese
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buzneg

I tryed what you posted Stefan, but it didn't work for me, I don't have the best equiptment but here's what I did.
-I boiled water for about 18 min, half of the water boiled out of the pot.
-before it stopped boiling I scooped some out with a shot glass, put plastic wrap around it and put it in the freezer
-I also took a metal spoon of hot water out and used my electrolisis on it, 2 9volt batteries connected end-to-end.
-did that for about 3mins, it got full of rust from my wire.
-tryed to light it with a cigarret and then a match, nothing
-tryed 2 other variations with shot glasses, one was partly iced, and I used aluminum this time, and let it electrolize for 10 mins, didn't work either.

before I go out and spend $50 did anybody get this to work or do they have a video? I would think your working on it now. thanks for sharing your info. this is almost as good as overunity, if it really works. ;)

Kator01

Stephan,

I did don claim that the H-storage-capacity is increased wihtin water by supersonic-sound-treatment. It is simply the most effective way to release all gases.

Can someone explain me the difference between the process of normal electrolysis and Brown-Gas-Electrolysis
or fetch a link here ?

Thank you
Kator

mikestocks2006

Quote from: Kator01 on October 12, 2006, 05:48:55 AM

.....
Can someone explain me the difference between the process of normal electrolysis and Brown-Gas-Electrolysis
or fetch a link here ?

Thank you
Kator

Kator
Good question.
I've been looking into that some time ago, buy nothing too specific to Brown Gas, however I came across this interesting replicating experiment, where the author uses straight 110 VAC rectified to power 60 cells in series, with no appreciable heat generation and good volumes. Maybe it is the rectified "sine" wave (120 pulses per second) at 60Hz straight out of the wall that does it?
"At 15 amps and 125 VAC (2.1 VDC X 60 cells = 125 VDC) that is bridge rectified
to DC, a series connected design can be plugged right into the wall without a
transformer.  This would have maximum power input of 1,875 watts.  And for
even higher gas generation, 220 VAC could be used with 110 separate cells in
series."
and
" One theory is it could
be due to the DC pulsing action (120 pulses/sec.) of the full wave bridge
rectifier of the 60 hertz AC waveform to the electrodes.  There could be a
'best pulse' rate, and this is an area still to be explored."
http://www.textfiles.com/bbs/KEELYNET/ENERGY/watergas.asc

Standard electrolysis involves a steady state DC source as opposed to the above?

Also this maybe of interest, for H2O reactant- reaction possibilities on the combustion side, I'd assume Brown's gas is somewhere in there reaction side.

Equilibrium Constants
The equilibrium constants can be related to the Gibbs free energy of the individual reactions. The reaction mechanism that we will be using is provided as
2 O + M <=> O2 + M     {M= AR:0.83 H2:2.4 H2O:15.4}
O + H + M <=> OH + M     {M= AR:0.7 H2:2 H2O:6}
O + H2 <=> H + OH
O + HO2 <=> OH + O2
O + H2O2 <=> OH + HO2
H + 2 O2 <=> HO2 + O2
H + O2 + H2O <=> HO2 + H2O
H + O2 + AR <=> HO2 + AR
H + O2 <=> O + OH
2 H + M <=> H2 + M     {M=AR:0.63 H2:0 H2O:0}
2 H + H2 <=> 2 H2
2 H + H2O <=> H2 + H2O
H + OH + M <=> H2O + M     {M=AR:0.38 H2:0.73 H2O:3.65}
H + HO2 <=> O + H2O
H + HO2 <=> O2 + H2
H + HO2 <=> 2 OH
H + H2O2 <=> HO2 + H2
H + H2O2 <=> OH + H2O
OH + H2 <=> H + H2O
2 OH (+ M) <=> H2O2 (+ M)      {M=AR:0.7 H2:2 H2O:6}
2 OH <=> O + H2O
OH + HO2 <=> O2 + H2O
OH + H2O2 <=> HO2 + H2O
OH + H2O2 <=> HO2 + H2O
2 HO2 <=> O2 + H2O2
2 HO2 <=> O2 + H2O2
OH + HO2 <=> O2 + H2O
http://wb.olin.edu/thermo/h2o2.shtml

I hope this helps.

Kator01

Hello mikestocks2006,

thank you very much. This is a very helpfull information, especially that of Mike Randall.

Try to get new information of this Mr. Randall.

Kator01